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This is just something I'm curious about, and I'd like to know the range of answers to this.

How many of you religious people accept evolution? If not, why not? If so, why, to what extent, and how does it fit into your religion?
Define what you understand by the word "evolution"
 
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How many of you religious people accept evolution? If not, why not? If so, why, to what extent, and how does it fit into your religion?
For myself evolution is a window into how God Creates new life forms. I'm unable to image God creating life in any other way.

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This is just something I'm curious about, and I'd like to know the range of answers to this.

How many of you religious people accept evolution? If not, why not? If so, why, to what extent, and how does it fit into your religion?

Sure I support it, because of the overwhelming scientific evidence that is vetted and peer-reviewed. Does it really change my beliefs? Not in particular.
 
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This is just something I'm curious about, and I'd like to know the range of answers to this.

How many of you religious people accept evolution? If not, why not? If so, why, to what extent, and how does it fit into your religion?

Bravo,

Thanks for your post... Here are a few selections from Baha'i sources...

The thoughts of man shall take such upward flight that former accomplishments shall appear as the play of children; -- for the ideas and beliefs of the past and the prejudices regarding race and religion have ever been lowering and destructive to human evolution.

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith, p. 234

Therefore I hope that whether you be in the east or the west you will strive with heart and soul in order that day by day the world of humanity may become glorified, more spiritual, more sanctified; and that the splendor of the Sun of Reality may be revealed fully in human hearts as in a mirror. This is worthy of the world of mankind. This is the true evolution and progress of humanity.

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith, p. 261

The organization of God is one: the evolution of existence is one: the divine system is one.

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith, p. 312

Let us suppose that the human anatomy was primordially different from its present form, that it was gradually transformed from one stage to another until it attained its present likeness, that at one time it was similar to a fish, later an invertebrate and finally human. This anatomical evolution or progression does not alter or affect the statement that the development of man was always human in type and biological in progression.

~ Abdu'l-Baha, The Promulgation of Universal Peace, p. 357

While Baha'is acknowledge evolution we hold that man has always been potentially human...
 
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The origin of plants and animals - including us. Random mutations guided by natural selection, adaptation, and reproduction. Descent with modification. Need more?
Thank you for sharing the link.

I accept the possibility that plants and animals may have over time evolved from other organisms. I do not accept the idea that human beings evolved from non-human organisms. I believe that on the 6th day God created Adam and Eve, who were people whom He created in His likeness and image.
 
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Thank you for sharing the link.

I accept the possibility that plants and animals may have over time evolved from other organisms. I do not accept the idea that human beings evolved from non-human organisms. I believe that on the 6th day God created Adam and Eve, who were people whom He created in His likeness and image.

Okay. No judgments, just trying to see where religious people stand.
 
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Yes, to the extent that science is assured of it, in the context of science and scientific history (i.e., humans recently evolved and there must be some ancestor(s) before homo sapien (sapien) became thus).

It is parallel to my religion because I do not interpret Church Tradition in terms of my science book, thus I do not interpret scientific discoveries or evidences in terms of theology.
 
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Some people will accept micro-evolution but not macro, or accept evolution of plants and animals but not humans.

The joke is on them because there is no such thing as micro and macro evolution. "macro evolution" is "micro evolution" over a longer period of time.
 
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I accept it because it's a fact. ...

No, it is NOT a fact.It is A theory.Does it have strong scientific foundation, yes.BUT, it cannot be proved in a lab, not yet anyways.

Accepting evolution effectively rules out creator God or any super natural entities(Pagan ?) .I do respect(For their conviction ;)) fundamnetal Christians riling up against evolution because it makes their scriptures just another story book.

To my understanding (Not a biologist)accepting the notion that all forms of life came out of gene mutation is not any prerequisite for carrying out scientific research in the field of of biology.
 
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No, it is NOT a fact.It is A theory.Does it have strong scientific foundation, yes.BUT, it cannot be proved in a lab, not yet anyways.

Accepting evolution effectively rules out creator God or any super natural entities(Pagan ?) .I do respect(For their conviction ;)) fundamnetal Christians riling up against evolution because it makes their scriptures just another story book.

To my understanding (Not a biologist)accepting the notion that all forms of life came out of gene mutation is not any prerequisite for carrying out scientific research in the field of of biology.

There is a lot to address in this post...I'll try to hit them with some bullet points.

  • The Theory of Evolution is the scientific explanation of the mechanics of evolution - how evolution works.
  • There is overwhelming evidence of the fact that life evolves over time. Any scientific debate is focused on HOW life evolves, not IF life evolves.
  • Evolution and science in general say nothing about the existence or lack thereof of deities beyond "No Gods or supernatural entities have been observed in the natural world".
  • Science does, however, conflict with the literal interpretation of most creation myths and the Biblical stories in Genesis are no exception. For example, a global flood is a physical impossibility.
  • Genetics, inheritance, evolution, and natural selection are all fairly important parts of biology.
 
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Hi Morning star,

I am specifically addressing Origin of Life and or species aspects.

There is a lot to address in this post...I'll try to hit them with some bullet points.

  • The Theory of Evolution is the scientific explanation of the mechanics of evolution - how evolution works.
  • There is overwhelming evidence of the fact that life evolves over time. Any scientific debate is focused on HOW life evolves, not IF life evolves.


  • I am not very knowledgeable on those details.I have a feeling there is no direct evidence for one species turning in to another entirely different species.The walking whale example doesn't appear to have enough evidence (To me, atleast :D) .

    Evolution and science in general say nothing about the existence or lack thereof of deities beyond "No Gods or supernatural entities have been observed in the natural world".

    The deduction(From the theory) is there is no scope for dieties.Period.It doesn't have to say anything.

    Science does, however, conflict with the literal interpretation of most creation myths and the Biblical stories in Genesis are no exception. For example, a global flood is a physical impossibility.

    Literal or allegorical the scriptural stories are made stupid by evolution theory (Origin of species ) .If species evolved over time in to another species then God/ deities are made irrelevant by default,whether they exist or Not.I am surprised how some people accept the theory and still stick to supernatural diety/deities.

    And natural selection are all fairly important parts of biology.

The so called micro evolution(Adjustment, ;)) appears to be adequate for research in the fields of biology.It is not some inviolable rule like in physics(say newtons' third law of motion ).
 
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