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They consider any change to be evidence for evolution. The world is filled with change. Lot of people change their underware at least once a day. Is that evolution?
That's not evolution. Read up on the definition and write again with that in mind.
 
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Evolution is nothing more than a Rube Goldberg cartoon.
I've given it some thought and in a nutshell as yousow so shall you reap.

The spirit branches ous to all creaiton (multiverse) seen and unseen. Instantaneously. Ehat you experience is feedback, higher dimensional, instantaneous. Conventional linear evolution is temporal and therefore too cumbersome a branch of "religion".

My advice: if in doubt change universe, if in danger do good.
 
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Lot of people change their underware at least once a day. Is that evolution?
Only if the new pair you put on has a flaw in the threads somewhere --
 
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There are creationist posters I quite like, but they are all old earth creationsists who tell the young earthers what an embarrassment to their religion they are.
The antagonist of my antagonists is my friend, right?
 
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I forget, was it you agree with 95% of science, or don't understand 95% of science?
I agree with 95% of the conclusions of science.

For example, I agree with science that the earth is 4.57 billion years old; but not for the same reason.

Of course, I have to agree with how it got that old, or that's not good enough.

I have to agree it grew that old, and I won't do that.
 
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Are you a deist?
 
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I agree with science that the earth is 4.57 billion years old; but not for the same reason.
Maybe the earth has been around the sun 4.57 billion times.
But at one time a year was a lot shorter then a year is now.

No reason to argue with science. They are convinced they know what they are talking about. Even though there is overwhelming evidence that they do not have a clue. Even they admit they only know three or four percent of all there is to know.
 
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Maybe the earth has been around the sun 4.57 billion times.
But at one time a year was a lot shorter then a year is now.
If I did my math right, that means that each year was 0.00008 what it is now.

And if I do my angular momentum correctly, that means the earth, if it was in the same orbital path then as it is today, would have had to be 80,000 times the diameter it is today.

(I think.)
 
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The antagonist of my antagonists is my friend, right?

Not necessarily, but in the case I mentioned it's good to see young earthers being educated by believers with a more adult understanding of their religion. It's more likely to get through to those of them who aren't hopelessly lost.
 
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Not necessarily, but in the case I mentioned it's good to see young earthers being educated by believers with a more adult understanding of their religion.
I can't remember right offhand, but I think I got moderated once for telling my brothers and sisters in Christ what I thought of their 'adult understanding.'

And we'll just leave it at that --

ETA: Nope ... I spoke too soon; qv please: 160
 
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Evolution is nothing more than a Rube Goldberg cartoon.
Nothing more?

Why, I would agree with your description. Evolution is not always efficient. It is not intuitive. It has to work with what was there previously. That can make it convoluted and unnecessarily complicated.

But, like these funny machinations... it works.

So you are, for once, correct.

But "nothing more"? Tsk tsk tsk.
 
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