Evolution

Hector Medina · Oct 1, 2002

EDITED: Link to anti-Catholic site.

I apologize I was using this site for creation rescearch and NOT AT ALL for its anti-catholic information.

I will not post it again.

In Christ,

Hector

Sinai · Oct 1, 2002

Originally posted by Hector Medina
1)Cosmic evolution:The origin of time,space and matter,Big Bang
There is NO evidence whatsoever that this could happen,how can nothing become something?

Does this mean you deny Genesis 1:1---that in the beginning, God created the universe? The Hebrew word used for "create" is bara', which means to create out of nothing.

Nathan Poe · Oct 1, 2002

*RANT MODE ON*

Originally posted by RufusAtticus
Trollin, Trollin, Trollin....

Though the thoughts ain't rollin, keep them fundies trollin...

RAWHIDE!

Don't try to understand 'em, Just fight the urge to spam 'em,

Soon they'll be breeding far and wide....

Move 'em on, set 'em straight,

Set 'em straight, move 'em on,

Move 'em on, set 'em straight,

RAWHIDE!

*RANT MODE OFF*

RufusAtticus · Oct 1, 2002

Thanx. NP!

Nathan Poe · Oct 1, 2002

Anytime Rufus.

Just admit it: you started singing when you read my post, right?

RufusAtticus · Oct 1, 2002

Yeah. I also make whip sounds. I couldn't figure out the song to "Trollin, Trollin, Trollin" but you did it. Yippe

Hector Medina · Oct 1, 2002

Sinai said ,

Does this mean you deny Genesis 1:1---that in the beginning, God created the universe? The Hebrew word used for "create" is bara', which means to create out of nothing.

NOPE!

There is a diffrenceIn creation :the earth was w/o form then God created everything.
In evolution: nothing became something on its own(w/o God).

In Christ,

Hector

Praxiteles · Oct 1, 2002

C'mon Hector, the jig is up. Very few here believe that you're a YEC (or even a Christian) anymore. Time to own up, mate. Let the real YECs put forward their baseless claims - they don't need you to parody them any more.

Cheers,
Prax

jon1101 · Oct 4, 2002

Originally posted by Hector Medina
In evolution: nothing became something on its own(w/o God).
 

straw man

LouisBooth · Oct 4, 2002

"How is my not wanting to get into a debate with someone who does not ever reply to a debate chalenge and then offering to debate with you instead inconsistant??? "

As your peers, they are the ones that jump on people for not wanting to always no matter what debate with people. As I said, no consistancy at all, though its not suprising in the least.

Lacmeh · Oct 5, 2002

Lb, I see only vast inconsistencies in Hm´s posts.
He doesn´t really reply to challenges.
Either he changes his mode of conduct, or I doubt anyone here will tak ehim seriously.

LewisWildermuth · Oct 5, 2002

Originally posted by LouisBooth
"How is my not wanting to get into a debate with someone who does not ever reply to a debate chalenge and then offering to debate with you instead inconsistant??? "

As your peers, they are the ones that jump on people for not wanting to always no matter what debate with people. As I said, no consistancy at all, though its not suprising in the least.

Okay Louis... Who exactly are my "peers" in here? Who are these mysterious people with no concistancy that you wish to lump me in with?

Why does it matter what others say when you are talking to me? Do you think that I see these people outside of this forum? Do we go for drinks together and discuss how to bring an end to YEC as we know it?

LouisBooth · Oct 7, 2002

"Why does it matter what others say when you are talking to me? "

consistancy. It clearly shows me bias among evolutionists, which I thought there was. that's not. Not a big deal really.

MSBS · Oct 8, 2002

LB,
So should we lump all of you creationists together based on Hector's or npetreley's trolling and hit and run posting? I guess that shows us that creationists have no desire whatsever to listen to a viewpoint besides their own, and if that is the case, why is there an evolution section on these forums? For creationists to get together and agree with each other?

seebs · Oct 8, 2002

Originally posted by LouisBooth

consistancy. It clearly shows me bias among evolutionists, which I thought there was.

I was under the impression that we were not to lump people together and judge them for each others' faults. If you wish to show that Lewis Wildermuth is biased, you should show the biases in his specific posts and claims. It's not enough to say that there's a bias in something someone else said, and they agree on this particular issue.

Stormy · Oct 8, 2002

Seebs: You do not think that at least on the part of some of the atheist that post... evolution is being used as a weapon to destroy the need for God?

seebs · Oct 8, 2002

Originally posted by Stormy
Seebs: You do not think that at least on the part of some of the atheist that post... evolution is being used as a weapon to destroy the need for God?

Not really, no.

The fact is, evolution is no argument at all against God - only against one particular interpretation of the Bible. History is littered with understandings of the Bible which we abandoned when we learned new things about the world we live in. One more isn't going to change anything.

No one believes in evolution *because* it's an attack on God. Some people, not believing in God, would find young-earth creation a very poor explanation for life - in which case, they might look for another theory.

I think that dogmatism about YEC beliefs is a tool designed to separate people from Christ.

"He who begins by loving Christianity better than Truth will proceed by loving his own sect or church better than Christianity, and end by loving himself better than all."- Samuel Taylor Coleridge (1772-1834)

I think this is an exceptionally insightful thing. Truth does not come from falsehoods. Falsehoods do not come from truth. If, indeed, life evolves, then teaching that it does not is a falsehood, and no truth can come of it.

It seems to me that God is welcome to create us in whatever way He sees fit, and that He has left a lot of tools and equipment around suggesting a particular style of work; it strikes me as foolish to deny this.

The atheists who participate in these threads are mostly quite respectful of Christianity. They are not attacking the faith; they are attacking the senseless conflation of an eternal spiritual truth with a strange set of beliefs about scientific matters.

LouisBooth · Oct 9, 2002

"So should we lump all of you creationists together based on Hector's or npetreley's trolling and hit and run posting? "

totally different subject. I'm lumping some people in because of inaction when approprate action is required. not because of inaction when inaction is required.

"why is there an evolution section on these forums? "

Probalby to appease evolutionists that have to talk about it

"I was under the impression that we were not to lump people together and judge them for each others' faults"

LOL, as per late you miss the point seebs If I do X I get jumped on by evolutionsts LW does X but doesn't get jumped on. I have seen this occur several times and shows me a lack of consistancy. I even point it out and the don't do anything. I just found it very intersting and a very clear show of bias, that's all.

sulphur · Oct 11, 2002

sorry as a geologist I find the evidence indisputable.this does not affect my belief in a superior intelligence.

FordPrefect · Oct 11, 2002

Originally posted by LouisBooth
LOL, good try, but no dice bladder.

Maybe blader doesn't mind the constant effing with his nick, but it drives me nuts... But I will try to join in the fun... maybe I am missing something...

how bout LooseBoobs, or LouseBath? Maybe we can all play this game...

I have been at the Straight Dope BBQ pit, and boy, do I want to swear

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