Evolution vs Creation

[Delphiki]

The duckbill platypus has more genera on it than the Frankenstein monster.

I'm sure it's just a conglomeration of "species," isn't it?

QV: http://www.christianforums.com/t7790249-2/#post64583417

 

[AV1611VET]

QV: http://www.christianforums.com/t7790249-2/#post64583417

Not clicking on any goofy links.

 

[Delphiki]

Not clicking on any goofy links.

Ok, then refer to post #17 of this thread. That's what it links to.

The post links to an interactive chart of the tree of life. Find the platypus on there and you'll get your answer. It's not my problem if you refuse to learn.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ok, then refer to post #17 of this thread. That's what it links to.

The post links to an interactive chart of the tree of life. Find the platypus on there and you'll get your answer. It's not my problem if you refuse to learn.

The link in Post 17 is the one I'm referring to ...

Just out of curiosity, how many times has it been upgraded?

(Probably more times than the Periodic Table.)

 

[Delphiki]

The link in Post 17 is the one I'm referring to ...

Just out of curiosity, how many times has it been upgraded?

(Probably more times than the Periodic Table.)

*updated

Probably every time a new species is discovered, as it should. Just like now the periodic table is updated each time a new element is discovered. Considering there are millions of species on the planet and only 118 elements, you are right.

Anymore attempts at "gotchya" questions or are you about finished being deliberately obtuse?

 

[AV1611VET]

Anymore attempts at "gotchya" questions or are you about finished being deliberately obtuse?

By "updated," I mean how much of Linnaeus' junk gets shuffled around the branches?

This is a Whatever unameit.

Oh, wait, it's now a Somet hingelsis.

Hold it! It's now a Movit elswear.

 

[Delphiki]

By "updated," I mean how much of Linnaeus' junk gets shuffled around the branches?

This is a Whatever unameit.

Oh, wait, it's now a Somet hingelsis.

Hold it! It's now a Movit elswear.

Hmm.

You act as if you'd be able to memorize the entire tree at any moment, yet you can't seem to retain the answers to any more than 3 of your questions.

 

[mzungu]

For a video that claims to be unbiased; it is so unbelievably biased that I could not bear to watch more than half of it! This video is nothing more than creationist propaganda.

Creationists simply fail to understand that science is progressive and not static as religions are. Science updates its knowledge as new discoveries are made. How do creationists think we got from this:

To this:

 

[AV1611VET]

How do creationists think we got from this:

To this:

Intelligent design?

 

[OllieFranz]

Intelligent design?

Really? You think that the first plane was designed intelligently using the same knowledge base as was used to design the second? Or maybe that mere "Pluto-ing" (whatever that means) of that database improves our ability to design?

No, the database evolves as we add new discoveries, and as we tweak things that we did not understand as well as we thought we did.

 

[Ginger123]

Intelligent design?

Exactly, knowledge, experience and intelligence and the ability to think, the correction of mistakes and a wish to move forward and shine a light rather than stagnate and stay in the dark,
what does religion want? fear, darkness and ignorance, the exact opposite.

 

[AV1611VET]

Really? You think that the first plane was designed intelligently using the same knowledge base as was used to design the second? Or maybe that mere "Pluto-ing" (whatever that means) of that database improves our ability to design?

No, the database evolves as we add new discoveries, and as we tweak things that we did not understand as well as we thought we did.

I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me here:

By "updated," I mean how much of Linnaeus' junk gets shuffled around the branches?

This is a Whatever unameit.

Oh, wait, it's now a Somet hingelsis.

Hold it! It's now a Movit elswear.

It sounds to me like you're agreeing with me (minus the "junk," that is).

 

[AV1611VET]

Exactly, knowledge, experience and intelligence and the ability to think, the correction of mistakes and a wish to move forward and shine a light rather than stagnate and stay in the dark,

So then how much of Linnaeus' ... um ... stuff gets shuffled around the branches like a woodpecker looking for a place to eat?

 

[OllieFranz]

Aren't they sterile though?

Actually fertile female mules are not as rare as they were once believed to be. And more female ligers are fertile than not.

What happened to saying they are incompatible because they fall into two different genera?

Are evolutionists implying that animals in two different genera can breed?

Asian leopards (genus Pantherine) can breed with tigers (genus Panther). African leopards (genus Panther) can breed with North American cougars (genus Puma).

In fact, almost every Great Cat can breed with at least one Great Cat of a different genus.

 

[Ginger123]

Exactly, knowledge, experience and intelligence and the ability to think, the correction of mistakes and a wish to move forward and shine a light rather than stagnate and stay in the dark,
what does religion want? fear, darkness and ignorance, the exact opposite.

So then how much of Linnaeus' ... um ... stuff gets shuffled around the branches like a woodpecker looking for a place to eat?

I agree, the flooted pelgrin will only whisle on a Wednesday.

 

[mzungu]

Creationism demands a static belief in a static dogma based on a static account of a creation story. Science is exactly the opposite! Now how can a creationist come to terms with the change that is inherent in science? Well basically he cannot. To the creationist any change is a threat to his beliefs. I do not blame them as such. They have the right to believe whatever they want so long as they keep it out of our science class in schools.

 

[AV1611VET]

Interesting ... I didn't know this.

Asian leopards (genus Pantherine) can breed with tigers (genus Panther).

What is the offspring called? Leotig? Tigerpard?

African leopards (genus Panther) can breed with North American cougars (genus Puma).

What is the offspring called?

In fact, almost every Great Cat can breed with at least one Great Cat of a different genus.

From the perspective of these "great cats," wouldn't the offspring look like a "crocoduck"?

 

[AV1611VET]

Creationism demands a static belief in a static dogma based on a static account of a creation story. Science is exactly the opposite!

No argument there.

 

[EternalDragon]

Really? You think that the first plane was designed intelligently using the same knowledge base as was used to design the second? Or maybe that mere "Pluto-ing" (whatever that means) of that database improves our ability to design?

No, the database evolves as we add new discoveries, and as we tweak things that we did not understand as well as we thought we did.

Like he said, humans tweaking things = Intelligent Design.

 

[Delphiki]

Thread summary: creationists find learning scary because it sometimes means changing what you think you know about something.

Can we move on now?