Evolution vs Creation

[AV1611VET]

QV please:

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You scientists with ADD can skip to 05:20 and start there.

Feel free to comment somehow.

 

[lasthero]

QV please:

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You scientists with ADD can skip to 05:20 and start there.

Feel free to comment somehow.

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That should about cover it.

 

[Delphiki]

9th Foundational Falsehood of Creationism - YouTube

Pay up, Kent.... Oh wait... Pay your bail and taxes first.

 

[AV1611VET]

Did I just hear Aron say, "We're not looking for any blend of two species that both currently exist"?

QV @ 01:58

 

[46AND2]

Did I just hear Aron say, "We're not looking for any blend of two species that both currently exist"?

QV @ 01:58

Yes, we are not looking for a crockoduck. Should one be found, it would be evidence AGAINST evolution.

Happy hunting.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes,

Then what's a Cockapoo?

 

[lasthero]

A blend of two breeds.

 

[46AND2]

Then what's a Cockapoo?

A better example would have been a liger, or a mule. Closely related species can interbreed, sometimes. But we've been through this all before...and Aron is talking about the mixing of distant taxonomic groups.

 

[Delphiki]

10th Foundational Falsehood of Creationism - YouTube

 

[AV1611VET]

A better example would have been a liger, or a mule.

Aren't they sterile though?

Closely related species can interbreed, sometimes.

Yes, I know.

I gave the Cockapoo as an example.

But we've been through this all before...and Aron is talking about the mixing of distant taxonomic groups.

That's how the public is duped into believing scientists.

They use words with more than one meaning to make evolution sound viable.

In my days, Aron would have had to have used the word "genus;" but evolutionists lost so many debates against creationists, that evolutionists blended their terminology and now say "species" -- including dropping the micro & macro distinctions.

 

[46AND2]

Aren't they sterile though?

Usually, but not always.

Yes, I know.

I gave the Cockapoo as an example.

and it was a bad example, sorry. It is a mix of breeds, not species.

That's how the public is duped into believing scientists.

They use words with more than one meaning to make evolution sound viable.

In my days, Aron would have had to have used the word "genus;" but evolutionists lost so many debates against creationists, that evolutionists blended their terminology and now say "species" -- including dropping the micro & macro distinctions.

No, the meanings have always been rigorous. It is creationists who blur the definitions. Science wouldn't work with ambiguous definitions...or, would be hindered, at least.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is a mix of breeds, not species.

Oh, that's right.

I forgot the No True Scotsman Principle.

No, the meanings have always been rigorous.

I didn't say they weren't.

Before "genus" got plutoed, it had a very specific meaning.

It still does today -- only the meaning isn't the same.

 

[Delphiki]

O.F.F.S.

AV, how can you expect to be educated when you intentionally forget the answers to your first questions once you get the answers to your following questions? Try to retain it all at once if you can. Maybe you should invest in a notebook if you are having trouble.

A cockapoo is a blend of two breeds within the same species.
A liger is a result of breeding two species of the same genus (and a rarity not known to ever occur in nature, even).
A crocoduck is an (fictional) example of two separate species that fall into two entirely different class of animal (reptilia and aves).

 

[AV1611VET]

O.F.F.S.

AV, how can you expect to be educated when you intentionally forget the answers to your first questions once you get the answers to your following questions? Try to retain it all at once if you can. Maybe you should invest in a notebook if you are having trouble.

A cockapoo is a blend of two breeds within the same species.
A liger is a result of breeding two species of the same genus (and a rarity not known to ever occur in nature, even).
A crocoduck is an (fictional) example of two separate species that fall into two entirely different class of animal (reptilia and aves).

What happened to saying they are incompatible because they fall into two different genera?

Are evolutionists implying that animals in two different genera can breed?

 

[AV1611VET]

Start fast-talker's video at 01:05 and watch it.

What's that thing at 01:13?

Yet when I asked if we were quadrupeds at one time, or did we crawl out of the sea on our hands and knees, I was told NO to both?

 

[Delphiki]

I believe this has already been explained to you.

Why don't you just look it up, instead of wasting everyone's time with off-topic questions?

In biology, a species (plural: species) is one of the basic units of biological classification and a taxonomic rank. A species is often defined as a group of organisms capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring. While in many cases this definition is adequate, the difficulty of defining species is known as the species problem. Differing measures are often used, such as similarity of DNA, morphology, or ecological niche. Presence of specific locally adapted traits may further subdivide species into "infraspecific taxa" such as subspecies (and in botany other taxa are used, such as varieties, subvarieties, and formae).

Wikipedia seems to have the gist of it.
Species - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You've already been told there are some exceptions. Now back to your original topic of whether or not there is evidence for evolution. You got it. Now what? Still not satisfied?

 

[Delphiki]

iTOL: Interactive Tree Of Life

Have fun.

(edit: Also, watch the second video I posted.)

 

[AV1611VET]

QV speedy's video at 00:28.

Note the Narwhal tusk next to a tapestry of an unicorn circa 1500?

I wonder how many Narwhal tusks were discarded before scientists found one to match a tapestry depicting a non-Biblical unicorn?

 

[AV1611VET]

The duckbill platypus has more genera on it than the Frankenstein monster.

I'm sure it's just a conglomeration of "species," isn't it?

 

[Delphiki]

I wonder how many Narwhal tusks were discarded before scientists found one to match a tapestry depicting a non-Biblical unicorn?

Wow. Really?

Sorry, I can't help you with that one.

Maybe you could ask your caregiver.