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It would seem you cannot explain it in your own words.
He gave you a video of an expert. If you cannot be bothered to watch it then you may as well tell someone not to bother to read the Bible in order to understand Christianity. If you cannot bother to learn then please do not bother to judge that which you know nothing about.
 
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Matter does not come from nothing. Even the energy requires a creator. EVERYTHING that has a beginning requires a cause outside of itself.
They had a problem and it was, 'where did everything come from', they then tried to answer it by creating another problem, it went something like this...
Matter does not come from nothing......... unless of course a creator makes it from nothing, only then can it come from nothing.
They started with one problem but instead of answering that problem they went and created another problem,
Where oh where did the creator come from?
The only answer they could come up with for the second problem was to go against what they said about the first problem namely, 'Matter does not come from nothing' and say that the creator had always been there and was not created from nothing.

They are forgetting that the 'Nothing' was not 'Nothing' because the creator was already there in the 'Nothingness'
one can only assume... doing 'Nothing'.

The lengths they will go to simply because they are afraid of being dead is mind blowing.
 
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Matter does not come from nothing. Even the energy requires a creator. EVERYTHING that has a beginning requires a cause outside of itself.

Dear mathetes,

The existence of virtual particles disproves all three of these statements.

As ever, Jesse
 
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The lengths they will go to simply because they are afraid of being dead is mind blowing.
This is exactly the problem with creationists; they want to simplify things which are extremely complicated. Scientists have worked very very hard to understand the physical world and these people (creationists) dismiss science with a wave of the hand as if all the technological advances we have came from thin air.

Over here I show people (even Christians) the posts here by creationists and they shake their head in disbelief. We simply cannot fathom how in this day and age there are people who dismiss science and believe in a flat world, talking snakes and donkeys and a cosmos that is only 4,000 years old.

It literally boggles my mind!
 
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Evidence?
1st Law of Thermodynamics?

Law of Conservation?

Surely you don't think the amount of mass/energy in the universe is still increasing, do you?
 
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your answer is totally irrelevant to my question.

Does it bother you that [non-Egyptian] scientists name a specific time when the First Law of Thermodynamics was instituted?
 
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AV you are making no sense
Didn't you ask me for evidence of when the First Law of Thermodynamics was instituted?

Well, if there is no evidence of when it was instituted, then is its institution pending?
 
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AV, When I said Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, you replied with:

This didn't start until God rested on the Seventh Day.

I asked for evidence for your claim and you failed to offer any. What evidence do you have for your claim? Please be specific.
 
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I asked for evidence for your claim and you failed to offer any. What evidence do you have for your claim? Please be specific.

You can't have a universe where creatio ex nihilo and the First Law of Thermodynamics co-exist.

And if the First Law of Thermodynamics does exist -- which I believe it does -- then there has to be a time when creatio ex nihilo stopped and the First Law of Thermodynamics started.

The only time I can see that happening is when God finished His creation and rested on the Seventh Day.
 
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AV, When I said Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, you replied with:



I asked for evidence for your claim and you failed to offer any. What evidence do you have for your claim? Please be specific.


All he has for evidence is the Bible and his interpretation of it. In other words, he has nothing.
 
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All he has for evidence is the Bible and his interpretation of it. In other words, he has nothing.
Fine ... you tell me where in the Bible it is then.

And yes ... I have NOTHING.

Which is more than you have.
 
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Fine ... you tell me where in the Bible it is then.

And yes ... I have NOTHING.

Which is more than you have.

Wrong, we have scientific evidence. Which is based upon the scientific method, which you are dependent upon for your very life.

Talk about hypocrisy. Science produces, religion, not so much.

So when you have something besides rantings based upon superstition please tell me.
 
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