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I thought the tree of life was diputed. When they say it is really more of a bush or hedge they are talking about there being a lot more sideways movement in the passing of genes.
As for the animals, we know that He is the giver of life.
Psalm 36:9New Century Version (NCV)
9 You are the giver of life.
Your light lets us enjoy life.
I find it kind of funny when someone thinks humans are animals.
That's nice.
Again, this was not directed to you. Why would I support an argument with an atheist by referencing the Holy Bible. A text that they don't deem credible.
This was directed to Paul of Eugene who states that they are Baptist. Last time I attended a Baptist church they believed the Bible was the word of God.
Again, this was not directed to you. Why would I support an argument with an atheist by referencing the Holy Bible. A text that they don't deem credible.
This was directed to Paul of Eugene who states that they are Baptist. Last time I attended a Baptist church they believed the Bible was the word of God.
It is also more prevelent in animals than first thought. But there is also a case for cross breeding as well especially earlier on when species may have been able to mate successfully more often. This can also blur ancestral lines as creatures could create new types of animals through cross mating.Horizontal gene transfer is much more prevalent among unicellular organisms, and does make distinguishing lines of descent more difficult for these species. It is also hypothesized that it was very prevalent among the early forms of life, thus making for more of a pool of earliest common ancestors, rather than a single earliest common ancestor.
Again, this was not directed to you. Why would I support an argument with an atheist by referencing the Holy Bible. A text that they don't deem credible.
This was directed to Paul of Eugene who states that they are Baptist. Last time I attended a Baptist church they believed the Bible was the word of God.
Then why did you quote me when you responded thusly? If it was a simple error like multi-quoting and excising the wrong quote, I understand.
I also believe the universe is God's word directly expressed, and we need to interpret scripture to be consistent with the universe.
I believe we must interpret the universe to be consistent with the word of God. If I see something in the universe that seems out of line with the scripture, rest assured time will show you that the scripture will always be right.
"The sun stood still and the moon halted"So you agree with Luther when he stated Copernicus had to be wrong, asserting that the earth rotates as the cause of day and night? After all, scripture states it is the sun that halted its movement.
"The sun stood still and the moon halted"
This is where you are going to draw a battle line?
13And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
If saw this and wrote to my buddy "Hey, the sun stopped in the sky. You should'a seen it. The moon stopped too" You would run over me and say "well, technically, the sun doesn't move.... we rotate"
This passage was not meant to state that the earth was the center of the universe.
Genesis is written specifically to describe how the universe came to be.
For you. How do you explain the direct and specific scripture describing how God made Adam and Eve and personally breathed the breath of life into Adam to make him a living being.
When I read this I cannot help but believe it was inspired by the Holy Spirit and written this exact way for this exact argument.
See how easy it is to reinterpret the literal words? You do it before our very eyes.
Now take the days of creation . . . the yoms . . . and consider them to be periods, and stop thinking of them as necessarily consecutive, but topical . . . and you have reconciled Genesis 1 with evolution!
Just as easy.
There's nothing to stop you except your own stubborn rejection of God's evidence, left behind in the stars, the rocks, and the genomes.
I don't see anything here about Adam, the breath of life, Eve and a Rib.
Let's see how this is reinterpreted.
God gave us two testiments the Bible and his works, the universe that he made.I believe we must interpret the universe to be consistent with the word of God. If I see something in the universe that seems out of line with the scripture, rest assured time will show you that the scripture will always be right.
Take Adam as an avatar, the chosen representative of the new race God is bringing into being; perhaps chosen because he, first among men, contemplated eternity. You can put him in the garden and take Eve from his side.
Once he is banished from the garden, you can allow for his concepts of eternity to awaken the rest of the species into spiritual (although fallen) life.
The oral history of these events become the stories we have in Genesis.
That's one way. Want to hear another?
God gave us two testiments the Bible and his works, the universe that he made.
I find it hard to understand how one can accept one and reject the other.
Since God's truth cannot contradict Gods truth so it is our understanding of these truths that may limited.
Our interpretation of Gods word may be an issue, our understanding of his works or most likely both.
I suspect that in time this will be reconciled in the fullness of time both our understanding of scripture and God's works. Both testaments will be reconciled.
The battles over the term "kind" are a a good example. Now science and the Bible agree, all life reproduces according to its kind with descendents of vertebrates always being vertebrates, tetrapods always being tetrapods, mammals always being mammals and so on.
Simple when we finally come to understand it.
Just my thoughts,
Dizredux
Nothing is impossible for God but I am not going to put myself into position where I tell God what to do. I am not going to say that God must follow my interpretation of the Bible.Does God not have the ability and power to create the universe exactly as it is written? Is the genesis description of the events of the creation of the universe outside God's ability. Is it a description of events that would be impossible for God?
Again, I am not about to tell God how he had to have done it.Well, as far as I am concerned, God created the universe exactly as it is stated. God did this in six days. God rested. He is so powerful that this was not outside His ability.
And what are you going to do when you are asked "Why did you tell lies in my name?"When you meet Him, you can tell Him "well I didn't think you could do it like you said"!
Nothing is impossible for God but I am not going to put myself into position where I tell God what to do. I am not going to say that God must follow my interpretation of the Bible.
Paranoid ideation cut.
Again, I am not about to tell God how he had to have done it.
And what are you going to do when you are asked "Why did you tell lies in my name?"
Dizredux
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