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I've already answered that question...
You can't look at something that doesn't exist.

All you've done is show your own ignorance on the subject. Maybe if you actually looked instead of sticking your head in the ground, you might find what you're looking for.
 
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All you've done is show your own ignorance on the subject. Maybe if you actually looked instead of sticking your head in the ground, you might find what you're looking for.

I've looked... many years ago...and they don't exist. The complete absence of transitional fossils proves evolution is a lie. Now... show me the fossil photos that prove the Archaeopteryx evolved from the reptiles. Admit it to yourself... they don't exist.
 
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All you've done is show your own ignorance on the subject. Maybe if you actually looked instead of sticking your head in the ground, you might find what you're looking for.

You pretend those fossils do exist, that link the reptiles to the Archaeopteryx... now, SHOW them. You're the one with your head in the sand... believing anything you're told about evolution, without looking for yourself. That's called indoctrination.
 
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I've looked... many years ago...and they don't exist. The complete absence of transitional fossils proves evolution is a lie. Now... show me the fossil photos that prove the Archaeopteryx evolved from the reptiles. Admit it to yourself... they don't exist.

Haven't found transitional fossils? Oh, you must not be looking right. Here, let me illuminate you.
And this article should be of some help for you.

Although, of course, that all entirely depends on whether or not you're willing to learn.
 
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You pretend those fossils do exist, that link the reptiles to the Archaelpteryx... now, SHOW them. You're the one with your head in the sand... believing anything you're told about evolution, without looking for yourself. That's called indoctrination.

Wow. Such a classic case of projection right here.
 
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Wow. Such a classic case of projection right here.

That's not answering my question. You wanted me to give you one thing that would cause me to believe in evolution... and I gave you one... yet, you avoid it because you know you can't give the needed evidence. You're indoctrinated.
 
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That's not answering my question. You wanted me to give you one thing that would cause me to believe in evolution... and I gave you one... yet, you avoid it because you know you can't give the needed evidence. You're indoctrinated.

No, I gave you the links you would need in post #44. Although you have given is projection, condescension and just straight up rudeness.
 
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No, I gave you the links you would need in post #44. Although you have given is projection, condescension and just straight up rudeness.

You gave me nothing
Haven't found transitional fossils? Oh, you must not be looking right. Here, let me illuminate you.
And this article should be of some help for you.

Although, of course, that all entirely depends on whether or not you're willing to learn.

Those links don't show a transition between the reptiles and the Archaeopteryx. You obviously don't understand what a transition means. You would need a LOT of transitional fossils so that the steps can be OBSERVED, SHOWING the step-by-step progression of the reptile becoming the Archaeopteryx. Also, drawings don't prove evolution, like the chart that's on that page.
 
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You gave me nothing


Those links don't show a transition between the reptiles and the Archaeopteryx. You obviously don't understand what a transition means. You would need a LOT of transitional fossils so that the steps can be OBSERVED, SHOWING the step-by-step progression of the reptile becoming the Archaeopteryx. Also, drawings don't prove evolution.

Look again.
 
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Look again.

You look again. Showing 2 fossils of actual reptiles and a chart with drawings on it are not scientific evidence for the Archaeopteryx. You need a lot of fossils that can show a transition took place. That's a simple request if evolution is a fact. But, we know there are none. Do yourself a favor... admit it...
 
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Look again.

"… I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualise such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic licence, would that not mislead the reader?

I wrote the text of my book four years ago. If I were to write it now, I think the book would be rather different. Gradualism is a concept I believe in, not just because of Darwin’s authority, but because my understanding of genetics seems to demand it. Yet Gould and the American Museum people are hard to contradict when they say there are no transitional fossils. As a palaeontologist myself, I am much occupied with the philosophical problems of identifying ancestral forms in the fossil record. You say that I should at least “show a photo of the fossil from which each type of organism was derived.” I will lay it on the line- there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument."


- Dr. Colin Patterson, senior paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History. The Quote is from a personal letter dated 10th April 1979 from Dr. Patterson to creationist Luther D. Sunderland and is referring to Dr. Patterson's book "Evolution" (1978, Routledge & Kegan Paul Ltd.)
 
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"… I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualise such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic licence, would that not mislead the reader?
’I wrote the text of my book four years ago. If I were to write it now, I think the book would be rather different. Gradualism is a concept I believe in, not just because of Darwin’s authority, but because my understanding of genetics seems to demand it. Yet Gould and the American Museum people are hard to contradict when they say there are no transitional fossils. As a palaeontologist myself, I am much occupied with the philosophical problems of identifying ancestral forms in the fossil record. You say that I should at least “show a photo of the fossil from which each type of organism was derived.” I will lay it on the line- there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument."


- Dr. Colin Patterson, senior paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History. The Quote is from a personal letter dated 10th April 1979 from Dr. Patterson to creationist Luther D. Sunderland and is referring to Dr. Patterson's book "Evolution" (1978, Routledge & Kegan Paul Ltd.)

>1979
Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
List of transitional fossils.
 
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This thread is closed. There are a few problems.

One, creationism/evolution debates are suppose to be in the Creationism & Evolution forum which is a subforum of this one.

Two, the Statement of Purpose for the Creationism & Evolution forum includes:
Discussions here should be on the nature of creation and evolution, not focused on bashing or uplifting those who are proponents of these beliefs.

There is not debate on the nature of evolution in this forum or any specific points, but there is bashing.

Three, the debate is too personal. Comments are to be on the content, such as debate points, and not directed at the member.



Please pay attention as to what forum you are in and read the Statement of Purpose.
 
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