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Evolution Promotes Brutality

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It is sad that the perspective you present is not taught in public schools anymore. The resultant decay in society is apparent. So much "self centered" rather than "God centered" people being raised in society.

Evolution has been one of the foundational tenets for "why". A mental snare utilized by satan.
 
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Are you familiar with David Chalmers? He is a philosopher who is at least sympathetic to the notion that all matter has consciousness, a term that Chalmers carefully qualifies in order to restrict its meaning to subjective inner states (sensations of colour, for example). I find his arguments very compelling, and they are certainly rigorous and cannot be dismissed as new-age mush.
 
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How? Please be specific.
I don't know if I would say that evolution supports it but it can certainly be used to motivate it.

Hitler is an example. He was creating a super youth and his race was supposed to be superior to all others.

If you think about it, if we all evolved from inferior organisms, then it is easy to fabricate a theory that your race is the best of all and superior.

As far as anarchy, it is also easy to say "if I came from nothing then all rules are just made by someone else. What gives them the right to say what is right and wrong if we are all here by chance anyway. So I will make my rules and there is no one who can tell me I'm wrong. I can do what I want, when I want, take what I want.. what ever, Who do I have to answer to? And when I die there is no penalty to pay.

So, evolution may not promote it but can be used to justify it.
 
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No, of course it is not. It is not remotely an answer to my question.
Evolutionists:
  1. The Bible kicked out of school.
  2. The Ten Commandments removed from public property.
  3. Claim we aren't a Christian nation.
  4. Equal airtime for cults and idols.
And you tell me that's not anarchy?
 
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I don't know if I would say that evolution supports it but it can certainly be used to motivate it.

Hitler is an example. He was creating a super youth and his race was supposed to be superior to all others.
Well, Hitler was misguided, I suggest. If it is indeed a fact that the living world we see today arose by evolution through natural selection, this provides no basis for actively choose to model that process. "How nature works" is not the only model we can use to promote advancement of the human condition. Yes, evolution by natural selection has led to the development of rich, complex life forms. And yes, there is arguable merit in seeking to improve the richness and robustness of life forms. But there are all sorts of other models we can follow to "improve humanity" that, unlike Hitler's model, are morally defensible. This idea that to believe in evolution means one rejects morality is patently false, even though you hear it a lot.

I think that is self-evident that is better, from all perspectives, to seek to improve the health, vigour, and robustness of the human race through the agency of compassionately-directed technological progress. Instead of letting the baby with birth defects die by "natural selection", we should develop technologies to repair the damage, or prevent it in the first place.

Just because evolution has happened, and even though it has produced the rich life you and I experience as complex, highly sophisticated, highly functional human beings, this does not mean we should not rise above what I agree is the moral ruthlessness of natural selection. I have heard Richard Dawkins - big evolution guy in case you don't know - make basically this same argument.

I want to respond to the second part of your post, but that will have to wait.
 
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Evolutionists:
  1. The Bible kicked out of school.
  2. The Ten Commandments removed from public property.
  3. Claim we aren't a Christian nation.
  4. Equal airtime for cults and idols.
And you tell me that's not anarchy?

The majority of Christians in the world accept the ToE as scientific fact.

Unhandled Exception: Divide by zero

Your argument is invalid.

In addition not one of these points has anything at all to do with evolution; the teaching of it, the acceptance or denial of it.
 
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A lot of words but very little true understanding of the subject matter.

You state placing God into the subject or topic is an oddity for biology, geology, physics, etc.

You have no clue.

What you have is Naturalism. A nice little dust box. Minus the entirety of the Spiritual Realm in our midst running the show. The Heavens Rule.

Enjoy the dust.
 
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Nice to meet you too!

Can you point out where I erred instead of preaching?

You obviously read this bit

Despite Creationists constantly trying to bring God into the topic it's a non issue, maybe you would care to find a scientific paper (not an article from a creationist website) that has anything to do with biology, geology, paleontology that discusses God.

Was I mistaken?
 
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Evolutionists:
  1. The Bible kicked out of school.
  2. The Ten Commandments removed from public property.
  3. Claim we aren't a Christian nation.
  4. Equal airtime for cults and idols.
And you tell me that's not anarchy?
Only In Christ Jesus are people freed from the Law.

Jesus did not come to abolish the Law.

And Law-breakers want to set the Law aside along with Christ, where-by they are freed from the Law?

Is that not bringing brutality and exalting the Fall!
 
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Jimmy, I've been an atheist. Grounded through knowledge, not mere reasoning.

This physical realm shows clear evidence of not needing any divine influence for its existence of what we find happening. Natural processes and understanding the properties of elements and materials explain things happening around us and to us quite nicely.

So say the Naturalism I grew up and walked in before meeting Him.

Need I say again, the Heavens Rule?

Yea, not much to equte that too if you are anchored in only the physical realm, and knowledge thereof.

But there is a Spiritual Realm. Doubters, they have a problem. I was certainly there and one of them in times past.

But one can become aware, even the Spiritual demonstrated before a person like us. It is staggering and life changing when one recieves what the Bible calls "the baptism of the Holy Spirit", when one is "born again" as listed in John 3:3.

Staggering and life changing. A wonder to find Him!
 
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Zero of the Christians that I know believe in the TOE....none. IMO and only in my opinion, the theistic evolution is a cop out, it's an insult to the creator who told us that He created it in six days.
 
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Evolution does not say everything came from nothing. Your understanding of evolution is flawed.
Cute, it is called Abiogenesis.

"The study of abiogenesis involves three main types of considerations: the geophysical, the chemical, and the biological,[13] with more recent approaches attempting a synthesis of all three.[14] Many approaches investigate how self-replicating molecules, or their components, came into existence. "

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

Many people do not see a need for a God to explain things around them. This includes the origin of life on Earth.

People who do not see the need for a God, nor see evidence that a God exists, see natural processes in control. We have just so happen to have come about.

That was my world in upbring, including when getting a higher degree in geology.

Evolution was a given when I took courses like paleontology. Someone carrying a Bible was mentally off or pretty ignorant of the times.
 
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To say that evolution "promotes" brutality is like saying that forensic science "promotes" murder. What a goofy notion.
Not worth a response, truthfully. You are blowing hot air, and playing alpha.
 
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Modernism has taken many from "the wild" into a city or subdued terrain where bear, lions, and the like feed no more.

But read Habakkuk 1. Yep, it is type and shadows of what is happening today, particularly as one gets closer to a city.

Who would have ever thought. God has wonderous ways! As far as those only living after what is physical, they know not the times and the Heavens Rule.
 
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