Evolution Promotes Brutality

SkyWriting · Jan 26, 2016

DogmaHunter said:
I note that you require changing the meaning of words in order to stick to your story.

It's explained in scripture.
The pope would be mad
if I changed any meanings.

SkyWriting · Jan 26, 2016

JackRT said:
The Neanderthal people occupied most of Eurasia and scientists have estimated that there never were more than about 25,000 of them.

Of course it's all guess working.

but:

Their peak population is extrapolated to have been 70,000. Between 35,000 and 40,000 years ago, the study on mtDNA cited below revealed a rapid decline in population to only about 3,500 females.https://www.quora.com/Are-there-est...d-other-proto-humans-during-prehistoric-times

Loudmouth · Jan 26, 2016

SkyWriting said:
I'm asking WHY living matter has an advantage over non-living matter.

Advantage in what way? The vast majority of matter on the Earth is non-living.

What would CAUSE non-living matter to change?

Did you ever take a chemistry class in high school?

How is living better than being inanimate?

Better in what way?

What chemical reason does life exist?

Because it reproduces.

What thermal reason does life exist?

The Sun.

What electrical reason does life exist?

The difference in electrical charge on opposing sides of mitochondrial membranes is what drives metabolism, which drives reproduction.

? -In what way do these following properties point toward life forming:

Do you really expect us to answer each one?

JackRT · Jan 26, 2016

SkyWriting said:
Of course it's all guess working.

but:

Their peak population is extrapolated to have been 70,000. Between 35,000 and 40,000 years ago, the study on mtDNA cited below revealed a rapid decline in population to only about 3,500 females.https://www.quora.com/Are-there-est...d-other-proto-humans-during-prehistoric-times

Thank you. I suspect that the article I recall was prior to the explosion of DNA based studies. Still, even at 70,000 they were spread extremely thinly over the world's largest land mass. Extremely!

Hoghead1 · Jan 26, 2016

I'm wondering where you got that figure, SkyWriting.

Hoghead1 · Jan 26, 2016

Also, SkyWriting, you raised an interesting issue when you spoke of nonliving matter. There is some real degree of philosophical debate here. I, myself, am a panpsychist. I believe that all things , on all their aspects, consist of minds or psyches. Hence, all matter is alive.

Hoghead1 · Jan 26, 2016

OK, but then I would suggest you look elsewhere. This estimate seems way, way too small for me to accept.

JackRT · Jan 26, 2016

Hoghead1 said:
Also, SkyWriting, you raised an interesting issue when you spoke of nonliving matter. There is some real degree of philosophical debate here. I, myself, am a panpsychist. I believe that all things , on all their aspects, consist of minds or psyches. Hence, all matter is alive.

Are you familiar with the writings of Tielhard DeChardin?

Hoghead1 · Jan 26, 2016

Yes, very and also en francais.

JackRT · Jan 26, 2016

Hoghead1 said:
Yes, very and also en francais.

His thesis is most interesting. Will the internet be a major step towards the Omega Point?

Hoghead1 · Jan 26, 2016

Yes, it certainly would be, JackTR.

JackRT · Jan 26, 2016

Hoghead1 said:
Yes, it certainly would be, JackTR.

JackTR is my evil twin.

Hoghead1 · Jan 26, 2016

Oops! Sorry. I'll watch our for your evil twin.

SkyWriting · Jan 26, 2016

Hoghead1 said:
I'm wondering where you got that figure, SkyWriting.

(Check the link in the post?)

SkyWriting · Jan 26, 2016

Hoghead1 said:
Also, SkyWriting, you raised an interesting issue when you spoke of nonliving matter. There is some real degree of philosophical debate here. I, myself, am a panpsychist. I believe that all things , on all their aspects, consist of minds or psyches. Hence, all matter is alive.

The definition of life is hotly debated.
My recommended method of analysis is to board a spaceship
for a few thousand lightyears of travel and when you get
back here you'll long for the taste of earth in your mouth
and have some idea about what defines life.

SkyWriting · Jan 26, 2016

DogmaHunter said:
Moreover, 2 (or 8) is a biologically unsustainable population.

Not if the Genes are pure enough.

SepiaAndDust · Jan 26, 2016

OK, this thread is getting stupid. You live, you die, nobody cares. Deal with it, people.

AV1611VET · Jan 26, 2016

SepiaAndDust said:
OK, this thread is getting stupid. You live, you die, nobody cares. Deal with it, people.

Is that why people weep at funerals?

Or have you ever been to one?

I take it you don't have any siblings?

Hoghead1 · Jan 27, 2016

I generally do not check out links. SkyWriting. Usually, they are to some bogus authority, to start with.

AV1611VET · Jan 27, 2016

Hoghead1 said:
I generally do not check out links. SkyWriting. Usually, they are to some bogus authority, to start with.

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