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<blockquote data-quote="Subduction Zone" data-source="post: 73873142" data-attributes="member: 321072"><p>I am sure that I did. And perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by the "biblical narrative". At any rate let me explain the kidney argument. In the 70's or 80's it was discovered that all cheetahs are incredibly inbred. So much so that a skin graft, which is a rather risk free organ transplant, from one cheetah to another posed almost zero risk of rejection. As you know human organ transplants are very difficult since unless there is a very close genetic match the body will reject a transplanted organ. That is why there are long waiting lists for transplants. Cheetahs do not have this problem. When DNA analysis became perfected scientist were able to analyze the difference between cheetahs and project backwards. It turns out about 10,000 years ago they went through a population bottleneck that was almost, though not quite, of Noah's Ark proportion. Their breeding population got down to less than 10 individuals. The flood story predicts that not only cheetahs, but all life would have an even more severe populaiton bottleneck. Humans included. The severe inbreeding that the cheetahs were forced to go through by their whisker thin escape form extinction has left them with a poulaiton where any two cheetahs are more closely related to each other than you would be related to your sister, that is if you have one. </p><p></p><p>If you are interested you can read more here:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC46261/" target="_blank">Dating the genetic bottleneck of the African cheetah.</a></p><p></p><p>That we do not see this is just one more piece of evidence that tells us that there was no flood.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Subduction Zone, post: 73873142, member: 321072"] I am sure that I did. And perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by the "biblical narrative". At any rate let me explain the kidney argument. In the 70's or 80's it was discovered that all cheetahs are incredibly inbred. So much so that a skin graft, which is a rather risk free organ transplant, from one cheetah to another posed almost zero risk of rejection. As you know human organ transplants are very difficult since unless there is a very close genetic match the body will reject a transplanted organ. That is why there are long waiting lists for transplants. Cheetahs do not have this problem. When DNA analysis became perfected scientist were able to analyze the difference between cheetahs and project backwards. It turns out about 10,000 years ago they went through a population bottleneck that was almost, though not quite, of Noah's Ark proportion. Their breeding population got down to less than 10 individuals. The flood story predicts that not only cheetahs, but all life would have an even more severe populaiton bottleneck. Humans included. The severe inbreeding that the cheetahs were forced to go through by their whisker thin escape form extinction has left them with a poulaiton where any two cheetahs are more closely related to each other than you would be related to your sister, that is if you have one. If you are interested you can read more here: [URL="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC46261/"]Dating the genetic bottleneck of the African cheetah.[/URL] That we do not see this is just one more piece of evidence that tells us that there was no flood. [/QUOTE]
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