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Evolution or Creationism?

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bhsmte

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And where did this so-called singularity come from? It's not supported by any proven physical laws, so it's just another word for miracle. You know the film, "The Theory of Everything" - well they've obviously got the title wrong as it should be "The Theory of Nothing."

Genesis is something from God, Who is eternal. It even says that in The Bible, "
Rev 1:8 'I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God, 'who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.' "

Well, you go ahead and believe that then.

You see, some look for answers with actually evidence to support them and that would not include ancient scripture.
 
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Bad analogy and more pure Smidlee nonsense.
No it's not. If I want to know something about biology I go to a biologist. If I want to know something about chemistry I go to a chemist. If I want to know something about biologist I go to God who created him.
 
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I don't need to. If someone wants to pick and choose which parts to believe, then it's a matter for their own personal faith. But they aren't doing themselves any favours by doing this and will have to keep adjusting their beliefs to try to fit in with the latest ideas from secular scientists. God got it right the first time and made sure it was recorded in The Bible, period.

You are then one who believes everything in the bible should be taken literally and never questioned?
 
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And where did this so-called singularity come from? It's not supported by any proven physical laws, so it's just another word for miracle. You know the film, "The Theory of Everything" - well they've obviously got the title wrong as it should be "The Theory of Nothing."

Nevertheless, mainstream science says a singularity was there. The big bang theory does not say something from nothing.

Genesis is something from God, Who is eternal. It even says that in The Bible, "
Rev 1:8 'I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God, 'who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.' "
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

From what? Sounds like something from nothing to me.
 
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No it's not. If I want to know something about biology I go to a biologist. If I want to know something about chemistry I go to a chemist. If I want to know something about biologist I go to God who created him.

And what kind of questions would you have for the chemist, or the biologist? Also, what has God told you about biologists?
 
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And what kind of questions would you have for the chemist, or the biologist? Also, what has God told you about biologists?
When the biologists takes his biology to explain himself away then he leaves the field of biology as he is not the creator of biologist. The Bible doesn't deal with science which is constantly changing but the heart of the scientist where all science come out of. The heart of man is the same today as it was thousands of years ago.
 
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When the biologists takes his biology to explain himself away then he leaves the field of biology as he is not the creator of biologist. The Bible doesn't deal with science which is constantly changing but the heart of the scientist where all science come out of.

Seems like you don't trust what people with Phd's in biology have to say then, so why bother going to them?
 
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Do you think a Phd biologist would know a lot about biology and would know more about the subject then you?
Yes biologist would know a lot about biology but that doesn't make him God. He doesn't know how to created a biologist any more than anyone else does.
 
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I've already explain that.

No, you haven't.

You said, if you want to know biology, you would refer to a biologist, which seems wise to me, since they have the greatest knowledge of the subject.

From that point, the comments you made seemed to infer, you would reject what they had to say, if you didn't like it. This tells me, you really think you have more knowledge about biology, then the biologist, if you are in a position to reject their positions.
 
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No, you haven't.

You said, if you want to know biology, you would refer to a biologist, which seems wise to me, since they have the greatest knowledge of the subject.

From that point, the comments you made seemed to infer, you would reject what they had to say, if you didn't like it. This tells me, you really think you have more knowledge about biology, then the biologist, if you are in a position to reject their positions.
I reject their religious beliefs since I don't agree with them. That what everybody does.
That's like saying I reject what Obama says when I don't like it but he is still my President. Just because he's President doesn't mean I have to agree with his views even if he get the whole White House agreeing with him.
 
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When the biologists takes his biology to explain himself away then he leaves the field of biology as he is not the creator of biologist. The Bible doesn't deal with science which is constantly changing but the heart of the scientist where all science come out of. The heart of man is the same today as it was thousands of years ago.
I rely on the work of biologists to understand my own conception, gestation and birth. Do you do the same thing?
 
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I rely on the work of biologists to understand my own conception, gestation and birth. Do you do the same thing?
Even a doctor understand the "mechanics" of birth if that what you are referring to. I surely don't think biologist can speak outside the own biological brain (unless they are physical dead).
I see my spiritual birth as real ( more real) than my physical birth.
 
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And where did this so-called singularity come from? It's not supported by any proven physical laws, so it's just another word for miracle. You know the film, "The Theory of Everything" - well they've obviously got the title wrong as it should be "The Theory of Nothing."

Genesis is something from God, Who is eternal. It even says that in The Bible, "
Rev 1:8 'I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God, 'who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.' "
What do you mean that it is not supported by any proven physical laws? You do realize that "something from nothing" is always being produced at the quantum level. And no, it is not a miracle. There are aspects of our universe that our science does not fully explain yet. That is no reason to appeal to magic.
 
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