Evolution or Creationism?

[SkyWriting]

Actually I clearly understand it better than you do.

Lets get to the logic of not quarantining Apollo 13.

 

[SkyWriting]

Nope. Now you are only degrading your religious beliefs. Evolution is based upon evidence. Your religion is based upon faith. Deep down inside you know that evidence beats faith and so once again you project religion, which you obviously believe to be an inferior thing, upon evolution. It will not work. But I am amazed at how many creationists eventually insult their own religious beliefs.

Lets get to the logic of not quarantining Apollo 13.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lets get to the logic of not quarantining Apollo 13.

Fine, but it still does not help your argument.

 

[SkyWriting]

It does not matter. We know that we have a brain and it works regardless of how it got here. Again, this is a logic fail of yours. You are projecting your errors upon others.

Lets get to the logic of not quarantining Apollo 13.

 

[SkyWriting]

Fine, but it still does not help your argument.

Lets get to the logic of not quarantining Apollo 13.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lets get to the logic of not quarantining Apollo 13.

That is three strikes and you are out.

Thank you for admitting that you have nothing.

 

[SkyWriting]

Fine, but it still does not help your argument.

Too late.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lets get to the logic of not quarantining Apollo 13.

Slow down, you are setting a record breaking rate for being wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Too late.

Yep, you already lost.

 

[Zosimus]

Some "negatives" can be proven, at least to a reasonable degree. And yes, we can "prove" that there was no flood.

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say that you can prove that there was no flood. Certainly you can prove that the currently-held theories about that flood are wrong or unsupported by the evidence at hand. That doesn't mean, however, that modifications of the theory couldn't be made.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say that you can prove that there was no flood. Certainly you can prove that the currently-held theories about that flood are wrong or unsupported by the evidence at hand. That doesn't mean, however, that modifications of the theory couldn't be made.

By my use of scare quotes I obviously meant that I was using the colloquial sense of "prove". Now if you want to use the definition used in a court of law meaning "proven beyond a reasonable doubt" that was done 200 years ago. And since then there has only been more and more evidence that tells us that there was no flood of Noah. There is no reliable evidence for the Flood at all.

 

[Zosimus]

By my use of scare quotes I obviously meant that I was using the colloquial sense of "prove". Now if you want to use the definition used in a court of law meaning "proven beyond a reasonable doubt" that was done 200 years ago. And since then there has only been more and more evidence that tells us that there was no flood of Noah. There is no reliable evidence for the Flood at all.

It took me all of 10 seconds of Googling to prove you wrong.

New flood theory replaces old one at https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/did-meteors-trigger-noahs-flood/

Evidence for massive tsunamis found (see http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/14/science/14WAVE.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 ).

In conclusion: As soon as you defeat one theory, imaginative people will present a new one.

 

[Smidlee]

Nope. Now you are only degrading your religious beliefs. Evolution is based upon evidence. Your religion is based upon faith. Deep down inside you know that evidence beats faith and so once again you project religion, which you obviously believe to be an inferior thing, upon evolution. It will not work. But I am amazed at how many creationists eventually insult their own religious beliefs.

All evidence we know stop at our biological brain. No matter how smart you thing you are it doesn't changed this fact. Your faith in evolution is why you can't see designed in nature.
Through faith we understand... and only by faith. You are blinded by your own faith.

 

[Loudmouth]

All evidence we know stop at our biological brain. No matter how smart you thing you are it doesn't changed this fact. Your faith in evolution is why you can't see designed in nature.
Through faith we understand... and only by faith. You are blinded by your own faith.

The evidence we reference come from the real world around us. Trying to find excuses for ignoring that evidence is not a very good way of dealing with the fact that we have the evidence.

 

[Smidlee]

The evidence we reference come from the real world around us. Trying to find excuses for ignoring that evidence is not a very good way of dealing with the fact that we have the evidence.

And everything we know about the real world comes from our brains. I know it hard to you to except but evolution is modern day idolatry

 

[Loudmouth]

And everything we know about the real world comes from our brains.

No, it doesn't. It comes from the real world around us. Facts are independent of our brains.

 

[Astrophile]

It took me all of 10 seconds of Googling to prove you wrong.

New flood theory replaces old one at https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/did-meteors-trigger-noahs-flood/

Evidence for massive tsunamis found (see http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/14/science/14WAVE.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 ).

In conclusion: As soon as you defeat one theory, imaginative people will present a new one.

The Swedish fossil meteorites described in your first link are in Lower Ordovician rocks and have nothing to do with a flood in historical times. Even Snelling doesn't provide any geological evidence to link these meteorite falls with any sort of inundation.

The second link is much more interesting and needs more data; however, I would point out that none of the 'chevrons' that provide the evidence for the massive tsunamis are in Mesopotamia. Also, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burckle_Crater and http://faculty.washington.edu./jbourgeo/BourgeoisWeiss/2009final.pdf for an argument that the 'chevrons' are not mega-tsunami deposits.

 

[Smidlee]

No, it doesn't. It comes from the real world around us. Facts are independent of our brains.

The real world / reality is what being debated. Your god is evolution which is the creation of the human mind while my God created the Heaven and the Earth , the Creator of the human mind. Facts are information which is a mind thing.

Here is men can to find their god / their creator through the product of their own mind.
http://news.unchealthcare.org/news/...genetic-code-developed-in-two-distinct-stages

 

[Subduction Zone]

All evidence we know stop at our biological brain. No matter how smart you thing you are it doesn't changed this fact. Your faith in evolution is why you can't see designed in nature.
Through faith we understand... and only by faith. You are blinded by your own faith.

Once again you are projecting. And it seems that you do not know what faith is..

You are the one with the inferior faith based belief. My beliefs are based upon evidence. If the evidence said that I was wrong I would change my mind.

Why do creationists continually degrade their own beliefs by trying to claim that science is faith based? It is a poor tactic to say the least. All you end up doing is degrading your own belief system.

 

[Smidlee]

Once again you are projecting. And it seems that you do not know what faith is..

You are the one with the inferior faith based belief. My beliefs are based upon evidence. If the evidence said that I was wrong I would change my mind.

Why do creationists continually degrade their own beliefs by trying to claim that science is faith based? It is a poor tactic to say the least. All you end up doing is degrading your own belief system.

When man take his own theory and tries to proclaim this is how he came to be then that theory (evolution) explain everything he does and everything he thinks and it no longer science. It's a religion.
I'm not trying to deceive anyone and will state my faith. The foundation of my scientific views (worldviews) are God created the heavens and the earth and gave man the ability to learn and do science. You know in your heart you can't admit to you faith because you want to speak as if you above others and that would put you on equal ground with everyone else.