Evolution, New theory or Not?

[SBG]

How does this relate to your claim that Evolution or Darwin claims that the earth brought forth life on its own? Perhaps a few quotes from Darwin on the matter would be useful. Darwins conclusion attributes the emergence of life to the Creator. You seem to be saying that he somehow said something different and I'm trying to get at where you came up with that claim. It would be nice to see it from Darwins own words. I don't think you have supported your assertion. Darwin explained abiogenesis with a direct reference to the Creator. You are adding abiogenesis to his argument. An argument he never made or intended to make in his writing.

Let me support my assertion of Darwins thoughts, if you read his Autobiography, written by himself, you will see how he thought of religion.

So tell me, you don't think the Greek philosophy of the earth spontaneously producing life is even close to the current laymans description of evolution or abiogenesis? That the Greeks belief that their current life evolved from other life has nothing to do with evolution? That their belief that all life previously came from the earth slowly and rapidly producing different creatures that soon became other different creatures, doesn't sound like evolution?

If not, what is evolution then.

 

[notto]

Let me support my assertion of Darwins thoughts, if you read his Autobiography, written by himself, you will see how he thought of religion.

His views on religion have nothing to do with his theory of evolution - which deals with speciation and the origin of species. Have you read Origin? That is the work to read if you want to understand his views on evolution - your choosen topic for the thread - the one where he attributes the creation of life to the Creator.

So tell me, you don't think the Greek philosophy of the earth spontaneously producing life is even close to the current laymans description of evolution or abiogenesis?

Evolution adn agiogenesis are two different things. Darwin addressed evolution and attributed abiogenesis to the Creator. Evolution doesn't address abiogenesis. If you want to make claims about abiogenesis then do it but don't invoke Darwin or lump it with evolution.

That the Greeks belief that their current life evolved from other life has nothing to do with evolution? That their belief that all life previously came from the earth slowly and rapidly producing different creatures that soon became other different creatures, doesn't sound like evolution?

If not, what is evolution then.

The Greeks view of abiogenesis if you are presenting it correctly does not share its view with Darwin. That is my point. As others have pointed out, the view of life coming from life of the Greeks was much different than speciation and evolution as described by Darwin. If that is your strongest point, then it leaves me wondering what the point is.

 

[SBG]

So what is evolution then Notto if doesn't have anything to do with species changing over time to a new species.

If you cannot see the connection, then the point is lost on you.

 

[notto]

So what is evolution then Notto if doesn't have anything to do with species changing over time to a new species.

If you cannot see the connection, then the point is lost on you.

That's exactly what evolution is. What evolution is not is abiogenesis or notions of the earth bringing forth life on its own. Just ask Darwin - he talks about speciation in his book on evolution and attributes the Creator, not the earth itself for the creation of life.


I still don't see how your assertion is played out - if Darwin, who is the basis of the scientific theory of evolution and these Greek philosophies relate - agian, some words from Darwin or actual evolutionary study would be good:
I have stated the philosophies of Greeks is the foundation of the evolutionary theory. I am not specifying science, but the rather the thought behind the science.