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If Adam & Eve had not followed the Serpent in his rebellion then the earth would be a paradise today. Not in the condition that it is in. All of creation is going to be redeemed and restored. Evolution seems to disregard all of that. It is like trying to solve a puzzle when you are missing an essential piece.
Blame the theory of evolution on apes. Man looks at apes(1*), looks at themselves(2*)-
all of a sudden the headline reads 'we evolved'(3*).
By the same token, we see atheist that claim that things that happened long ago, preserved in religious evolution, didn't happen because that was a long time ago. Atheist have no proof that it didn't happen, so their contentions become a matter so faith.
Are you trying to suggest that Noah was not a real person, there was no flood and there was no Ark filled with animals?
So-called "Christian" scholars and theologians (and now geologists) have been attacking the Bible narratives for a long time now. So what else is new? We have so-called "Christian" professors today who are doing the very same thing. They just don't have the courage to say "We are simply pretenders. You should not be listening to us".
But you knew that before you came here hunting dogma so what's your point? This is a religious forum.
The point, obviously, is that the burden of proof is with the one who makes the positive claim.
The claim that requires evidence in support of it is that leprachauns hid pots of gold in places marked by rainbows. Absent that evidence, the claim may be dissmissed at face value.
The same goes for religious claims, or indeed any other faith-based claim.
That which is asserted without evidence, can be dissmissed without evidence.
So telling me that "I can't prove X is NOT true" in an attempt at making your faith-based claims concerning X to sound more credible, is no more or less then a logic failure. It's trying to shift the burden of proof.
We know that there was no Global flood. At least the is overwelming evidence that there is no Global flood. But you have zip, zero, no evidence to show that Noah was not a real person and that there was not a real Ark. IF Noah was a pretend story then there should be just as much evidence to that as there is that the flood was NOT global. If the Ringling Brothers could put their whole circus on a train then Noah could put his whole traveling show in a boat. He just built a boat big enough for his family and all the animals on his farm.Not only would I suggest that. I'ld flat out tell you that.
Indeed, there was no Noah, no ark filled with animals and most certainly no global flood.
They love to build a straw men argument then defeat their own argument. They love to argue with themselves. Often I agree with them. For example when they tell me their concept of God I agree that their concept of God does not exist. They do not know the God of the Bible. They are fully convinced though. The question is what are they fully convinced of or in. I am fully convinced also. This is exactly what God wants is for: " Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind."Atheist dogma hunters choose questions that can't be answered without subjectively experiencing it yourself. You then use that self deceiving technique as proof to yourself. The failure is your inability to find the God of our experience. The truest and only proof of our experience with God is in the lives that we live.
But we cannot prove God to the satisfaction of the doubters mind who us unwilling to seek God himself. It seems you should have figured that out long ago. So, what you need is another hobby.
They love to build a straw men argument then defeat their own argument. They love to argue with themselves. Often I agree with them. For example when they tell me their concept of God I agree that their concept of God does not exist. They do not know the God of the Bible. They are fully convinced though. The question is what are they fully convinced of or in. I am fully convinced also. This is exactly what God wants is for: " Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind."
The [fallen] sons of God, who wrote this in 1955, know it is called "Completion of the Scriptures."I recall that, in the petrified, stunted mind of the Bible fetish, truth and facts about God and his universe stopped at the end of REV 22.
88:2.7 "In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round." UB 1955
We know that there was no Global flood.
At least the is overwelming evidence that there is no Global flood.
But you have zip, zero, no evidence to show that Noah was not a real person and that there was not a real Ark.
IF Noah was a pretend story then there should be just as much evidence to that as there is that the flood was NOT global.
If the Ringling Brothers could put their whole circus on a train then Noah could put his whole traveling show in a boat. He just built a boat big enough for his family and all the animals on his farm.
Atheist dogma hunters choose questions that can't be answered without subjectively experiencing it yourself.
You then use that self deceiving technique as proof to yourself. The failure is your inability to find the God of our experience. The truest and only proof of our experience with God is in the lives that we live.
But we cannot prove God to the satisfaction of the doubters mind who us unwilling to seek God himself.
It seems you should have figured that out long ago. So, what you need is another hobby.
They love to build a straw men argument then defeat their own argument. They love to argue with themselves. Often I agree with them. For example when they tell me their concept of God I agree that their concept of God does not exist. They do not know the God of the Bible. They are fully convinced though. The question is what are they fully convinced of or in. I am fully convinced also. This is exactly what God wants is for: " Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind."
You make a good point, Atheist do often have an immature God concept that they yearn for in contrast to the true God of mystery, with a far reaching plan, that requires patience, trust and faith.
Yes, it was.The Urantia revelation wasn't written by "fallen Sons",
Good grief, you might want to try reading that website instead of using it to try and back up your spurious arguments, you might learn something. Why are you quoting them anyway? A small percentage of what they've published is in agreement with your religious beliefs so it's ok, the majority of what they publish doesn't agree with your religious beliefs so it's wrong, as fine an example of cognitive dissonance as I've seen.
Here's a quote for you I saw on there:
Biological evolution is not simply a matter of change over time. Lots of things change over time: trees lose their leaves, mountain ranges rise and erode, but they aren't examples of biological evolution because they don't involve descent through genetic inheritance.
The central idea of biological evolution is that all life on Earth shares a common ancestor, just as you and your cousins share a common grandmother.
Through the process of descent with modification, the common ancestor of life on Earth gave rise to the fantastic diversity that we see documented in the fossil record and around us today. Evolution means that we're all distant cousins: humans and oak trees, hummingbirds and whales.
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