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I think I sufficiently demonstrated all three.I thought bearing false witness was a sin. Did you get "Dispensated" for that?
I think I sufficiently demonstrated all three.
It certainly caused you guys some near consternation, so it must have had some impact.
AV1611VET you are confusing consternation with incredulity, some people here are really 'gob smacked' with the things you come out with, wanting to be and stay ignorant is one thing but needing to prove it every time you open your mouth is completely unnecessary.It certainly caused you guys some near consternation, so it must have had some impact.
I couldn't resist coming back. I so enjoy being called a moron you know! LOL
First, I must make a correction for a mistype earlier. I stated that my engineering husband of 17 years has come to the conclusion that logic is the only way to understand anything.
What I meant to type was that he has learned that logic is NOT the only way to look at information. Often, logical analysis can be quite a barrier as the world is made up of many things that we can't see. Love, wind, etc.
Secondly, after pondering the discussion, I still have two questions that have not been answered.
The foundational question is 'Where did it all begin?' If you can't answer this, you have no foundation on which to build.
If I tell you a printer just popped up on the beach, fully functioning, you're going to know that someone designed that puppy. It didn't materialize out of seaweed and whale poop now did it!?
Second, SHOW ME!!!! Show me just one species that is alive today for which you have the previous iterations full fossil remains where it turns from one species into the next. Not drawings, hard, real material.
Who called you a moron?
Seems a bit extreme, unless you married a Vulcan.
Except that we can logically explain these things -- even if we don't logically experience them (except for wind).
Not necessarily. Evolution begins with the existence of life -- where that life originally came from doesn't matter.
Nor did mommy and daddy printer copuate and make little baby printers -- see the difference?
Is that all?
Question: If I took a series of pictures of a ball rolling down a hill, would you reject this as proof of gravity because I don't have pictures of every last millimeter the ball traveled?
Is that all?
Question: If I took a series of pictures of a ball rolling down a hill, would you reject this as proof of gravity because I don't have pictures of every last millimeter the ball traveled?
The foundational question is 'Where did it all begin?' If you can't answer this, you have no foundation on which to build. If I tell you a printer just popped up on the beach, fully functioning, you're going to know that someone designed that puppy. It didn't materialize out of seaweed and whale poop now did it!?
U said:Second, SHOW ME!!!! Show me just one species that is alive today for which you have the previous iterations full fossil remains where it turns from one species into the next.
Ask yourself, Does one need to show the organ of mass to demonstrate gravity exists? Like wise one does not need to show abiogenesis to demonstrate that evolution exists.The foundational question is 'Where did it all begin?' If you can't answer this, you have no foundation on which to build.
and the reason we know the printer was created is because its self evident. The only reason its self evident is because its something created contrasted in a world of things that are not. If life on earth and the earth itself was created, the printer would not stand out as being created, it would blend in. The watch in the forest argument is a really really bad one. (which is where your argument is derived from is it not)If I tell you a printer just popped up on the beach, fully functioning, you're going to know that someone designed that puppy. It didn't materialize out of seaweed and whale poop now did it!?
Second, SHOW ME!!!! Show me just one species that is alive today for which you have the previous iterations full fossil remains where it turns from one species into the next. Not drawings, hard, real material.
Firstly I think you have been sat in that pew listening for too long, try walking around and looking at the world and thinking a little more.The foundational question is 'Where did it all begin?' If you can't answer this, you have no foundation on which to build. If I tell you a printer just popped up on the beach, fully functioning, you're going to know that someone designed that puppy. It didn't materialize out of seaweed and whale poop now did it!?
Show you??? why should anyone show you? are you a fool? do you need someone else to show you everything? it's your life so you must find out what it's all about for yourself, make your own decisions, make up your own mind, stop relying on other people to do YOUR thinking for you, wake up.Second, SHOW ME!!!! Show me just one species that is alive today for which you have the previous iterations full fossil remains where it turns from one species into the next. Not drawings, hard, real material. All I've ever seen, and what Thaumatergy offered in his link to 29 proofs are drawings. That is NOT hard proof. How can you possibly say it is? If I bring you some green slime and say it came from a martian, you're gonna ask to see that martian. If I can't produce it then you're gonna debunk it. Show me. Not just a bunch of high sounding words that amount to nothing, show me the physical proof. Every bit of 'proof' I've ever seen in any book consists of drawings. Or one picture of one thing. These things require great detail to prove.
Show me.
I couldn't resist coming back. I so enjoy being called a moron you know! LOL
Secondly, after pondering the discussion, I still have two questions that have not been answered.
The foundational question is 'Where did it all begin?' If you can't answer this, you have no foundation on which to build.
If I tell you a printer just popped up on the beach, fully functioning, you're going to know that someone designed that puppy.
It didn't materialize out of seaweed and whale poop now did it!?
Second, SHOW ME!!!! Show me just one species that is alive today for which you have the previous iterations full fossil remains where it turns from one species into the next. Not drawings, hard, real material
. All I've ever seen, and what Thaumatergy offered in his link to 29 proofs are drawings. That is NOT hard proof.
How can you possibly say it is?
If I bring you some green slime and say it came from a martian, you're gonna ask to see that martian. If I can't produce it then you're gonna debunk it. Show me. Not just a bunch of high sounding words that amount to nothing, show me the physical proof. Every bit of 'proof' I've ever seen in any book consists of drawings. Or one picture of one thing. These things require great detail to prove. Show me
If fossils were balls you might have a point, but I beg to differ......if they can find bones millions of years old they should be able to find bones not so old.....
They do, graveyards are full of them.if they can find bones millions of years old they should be able to find bones not so old.....
If fossils were balls you might have a point, but I beg to differ......if they can find bones millions of years old they should be able to find bones not so old.....
If fossils were balls you might have a point, but I beg to differ......if they can find bones millions of years old they should be able to find bones not so old.....
Ask yourself, Does one need to show the organ of mass to demonstrate gravity exists? Like wise one does not need to show abiogenesis to demonstrate that evolution exists.
and the reason we know the printer was created is because its self evident. The only reason its self evident is because its something created contrasted in a world of things that are not. If life on earth and the earth itself was created, the printer would not stand out as being created, it would blend in. The watch in the forest argument is a really really bad one. (which is where your argument is derived from is it not)
Here. A is clearly not human, and N is clearly human. What are the skulls in between?
Firstly I think you have been sat in that pew listening for too long, try walking around and looking at the world and thinking a little more.
Where or how it all began has ABSOLUTLY NOTHING to do with evolution, evolution only comes into play when there is LIFE.
Show you??? why should anyone show you? are you a fool? do you need someone else to show you everything? it's your life so you must find out what it's all about for yourself, make your own decisions, make up your own mind, stop relying on other people to do YOUR thinking for you, wake up.
That's nice.
First, I must make a correction for a mistype earlier. I stated that my engineering husband of 17 years has come to the conclusion that logic is the only way to understand anything. What I meant to type was that he has learned that logic is NOT the only way to look at information. Often, logical analysis can be quite a barrier as the world is made up of many things that we can't see. Love, wind, etc.
That is nice....... Also utter anathema to the scientific method. Don't do it.
There. I hope we're done with this absurd claim
You're pictures prove absolutely nothing, without hard information and clear evidence of exactly how this lifeform changed from one thing to another, these are still just pictures.
If there is such hard proof, then there should be museums, or labs where one can go and see the hard proof, all layed out in a logical order.
None of the proofs should be man-made.
The processes and changes of the being should be quite evident and each one thoroughly explained so that the students you're trying so hard to convince can clearly see what is going on.
Instead, what happens, you take young students, or older students, set them in front of educated professors with intelligent sounding language and tell them that what you believe is true is actually true. They believe you because you have many sets of letters after your name to prove that you know what you are talking about.
Can't you see that none of this proves anything? It's simply so many men and women talking about what they think is true, and you call anyone who dares disagrees with you an uneducated moron, but you still cannot answer the foundational questions.
As another fellow asked, where are the not so old bones? Why not show us some evidence of a species evolving from a less complex being than a human? How about a worm, surely there is evidence of a worm evolving into something?
For goodness sake, we no NOTHING about the human body.
Every time we think we no something, someone comes along and does a study to show it was a mistake and that their theory is the correct one, until someone else comes along......
Remember, I'm an uneducated moron so I need you to show me the simple things here. Oh, but no one wants to do that because I should go find it out for myself. If you've got all the answers, it shouldn't be so very difficult to provide them in an understandable form.
Right, because scientific method is the only possible way to have any knowledge. You know absolutely everything you know because you learned it from the scientific method, is that right?
Once again, using offensive language. If this is an honest discussion, then why is it so necessary to couch every comment in this type of language?
Do you truly believe that people are complete idiots who do not agree with you about the THEORY of evolution?
I guess must have Darwin's contemporaries must have been morons too.
They couldn't possibly have been thinking people with a different conclusion to the evidence at hand.
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Look what I found. Amazing 5,000-year-old skeletons laid on bed of flowers found in Sahara - proving desert was once green and lush | Mail Online
And this: Thousand-year-old Lombard warrior skeleton discovered buried with horse in Italy - Telegraph
Your argument becomes somewhat untenable when we do find skeletons that are recent, doesn't it?
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