Evolution - implications

[simonpeter]

What do you - both believers and the rest - believe are the philosophical implications of evolution? Is it just a scientific fact to you, or is it much more?

 

[quatona]

I can´t think of any.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

If you know evolution is true then you know that last thursdayism is false.

In theory of mind, if mind has a evolutionary role it has a causal role, and therefore epiphenominalism (and other theories which deny mental causation) are false.

In the debate of the origin of morals, evolution may be posited as a source of the general capacity to live evaluatively.

In the philosophy of biology having evolved becomes a characteristic of life, alongside metabolism etc.

Evolution bolsters naturalism, abnd abiogenesis becomes the inference to best explanation for OOL.

 

[AV1611VET]

What do you - both believers and the rest - believe are the philosophical implications of evolution? Is it just a scientific fact to you, or is it much more?

It's a dangerous doctrine.

1. It blasphemes God, since God says He made us in His image, whereas evolution says we came from an animal.

2. It teaches us human beings are animals, whereas God has set us apart from the animal kingdom.

3. It teaches we came about by natural processes, whereas God created us via a miraculous fiat.

4. It reduces Genesis 1 to the status of a fable, starting a process whereby the rest of the Scriptures are looked upon with suspicion. Left unchecked, this downward spiral will eventually lead to every jot & tittle being reduced to the status of an allegory.

5. It breeds contempt between evolutionists and creationists.

6. It creates a zero tolerance for those who don't appreciate it, or know how it works -- right down to the molecular level.

7. It creates a philosophy that the Antichrist will be able to exploit to the fullest.

8. It teaches uniformitarianism, rather than catastrophism.

9. It breeds Antisemitism & Antizionism.

10. It produces no hope for the future -- only destruction & despair.

 

[jpcedotal]

To Christians:

Jesus Christ referred to Genesis as the literal history of the world.

For a Christian to believe that Genesis is just a story of symbolism means either Jesus was deceived by Genesis or He knew it wasn't true and He lied to us.

Christian, to believe in Jesus Christ is the Son of God is to believe how He believes.

 

[juvenissun]

What do you - both believers and the rest - believe are the philosophical implications of evolution? Is it just a scientific fact to you, or is it much more?

Evolution can justify everything you do, include all types of crimes. Because there is no crime in evolution.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Evolution can justify everything you do, include all types of crimes. Because there is no crime in evolution.

And God will forgive any crime but one, so what's the difference?

 

[AV1611VET]

To Christians:

Jesus Christ referred to Genesis as the literal history of the world.

For a Christian to believe that Genesis is just a story of symbolism means either Jesus was deceived by Genesis or He knew it wasn't true and He lied to us.

Christian, to believe in Jesus Christ is the Son of God is to believe how He believes.

Amen!

 

[Elendur]

Why should there be any philosophical implication of that theory?

It's an explanation to a set of observed facts, not anything else.

 

[Heissonear]

I've been a formally educated evolutionist and have worked closely with them for three decades - this earth and universe is a Creation. Evolutionist have much more to learn. God has brought evolution about for a reason, as a snare to those wise in their own eyes. A little knowledge about the natural can be misleading.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Why should there be any philosophical implication of that theory?

It's an explanation to a set of observed facts, not anything else.

Yes, but when people can't debate the facts because they're true, they need to make a case to hide the truth because the truth leads to bad stuff.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I've been a formally educated evolutionist and have worked closely with them for three decades - this earth and universe is a Creation. Evolutionist have much more to learn. God has brought evolution about for a reason, as a snare to those wise in their own eyes. A little knowledge about the natural can be misleading.

Any reason you feel a need to boast about your own alleged credentials in every thread?

 

[Elendur]

Yes, but when people can't debate the facts because they're true, they need to make a case to hide the truth because the truth leads to bad stuff.

Because the truth leads to bad stuff or because they think the truth leads to bad stuff?

 

[quatona]

a formally educated evolutionist

 

[Mr Strawberry]

AV1611VET's made a list. OK, let's have a look.

It's a dangerous doctrine.

No, it dangerous to your doctrine.

1. It blasphemes God, since God says He made us in His image, whereas evolution says we came from an animal.

You mean it's dangerous to your sense of being special.

2. It teaches us human beings are animals, whereas God has set us apart from the animal kingdom.

And dangerous to your ego and sense of self importance.

3. It teaches we came about by natural processes, whereas God created us via a miraculous fiat.

Dangerous to your sense of being special again.

4. It reduces Genesis 1 to the status of a fable, starting a process whereby the rest of the Scriptures are looked upon with suspicion. Left unchecked, this downward spiral will eventually lead to every jot & tittle being reduced to the status of an allegory.

Dangerous to Genesis 1. Hmm. I'm sure that's important to you, but I'm struggling to empathise. It's rather as if someone tells you that the 'The Da Vinci Code' has been reduced to the status of a mere novel. It's hard not to laugh and say "yeah, that's because it is a novel.".

5. It breeds contempt between evolutionists and creationists.

Is contempt the right word? Most creationists are victims of how they've been brought up, so pity for them and anger at the poor education they've received is a common theme. Contempt is probably reserved for the dishonest hucksters of creationism.

6. It creates a zero tolerance for those who don't appreciate it, or know how it works -- right down to the molecular level.

Zero tolerance for those who make no effort to understand what they are denouncing would be closer to the truth.

7. It creates a philosophy that the Antichrist will be able to exploit to the fullest.

You may need to enlighten me as to what the philosophy of evolution is before you can build an argument that it is exploitable by a mythical demonic entity.

8. It teaches uniformitarianism, rather than catastrophism.

Lol, you mean it teaches fact rather than fiction.

9. It breeds Antisemitism & Antizionism.

I'm sensing some personal agenda being lugged forward here. Whatever your reason for saying this, it is wrong, and bizarre.

10. It produces no hope for the future -- only destruction & despair.

Nonsense. Evolution has led to you being alive now in your body which is wonderfully adapted to live on the surface of this exciting place called Earth. You have a winning ticket in the lottery of existence. What's to be depressed about? I mean, you could have been born a blobfish, that really would have been rotten luck:

Although I expect the blobfish is happy with his lot, he doesn't look it, does he? Actually, it occurs to me that the blobfish looks as happy as a creationist who has just discovered there is no afterlife.

 

[durangodawood]

It's a dangerous doctrine.

1. It blasphemes God, since God says He made us in His image, whereas evolution says we came from an animal.

2. It teaches us human beings are animals, whereas God has set us apart from the animal kingdom.

3. It teaches we came about by natural processes, whereas God created us via a miraculous fiat.

4. It reduces Genesis 1 to the status of a fable, starting a process whereby the rest of the Scriptures are looked upon with suspicion. Left unchecked, this downward spiral will eventually lead to every jot & tittle being reduced to the status of an allegory.

5. It breeds contempt between evolutionists and creationists.

6. It creates a zero tolerance for those who don't appreciate it, or know how it works -- right down to the molecular level.

7. It creates a philosophy that the Antichrist will be able to exploit to the fullest.

8. It teaches uniformitarianism, rather than catastrophism.

9. It breeds Antisemitism & Antizionism.

10. It produces no hope for the future -- only destruction & despair.

Maybe it does all those things.

But we'll have to deal with it, because its true.

 

[juvenissun]

And God will forgive any crime but one, so what's the difference?

No. He won't.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Because there is no crime in evolution.

There is no crime in gravity or the atomic theory either.

Using evolution to justify a crime is a great example of an invalid way to make a philosophical deduction from the truth of evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

Using evolution to justify a crime is a great example of an invalid way to make a philosophical deduction from the truth of evolution.

Didn't Germany's scientists in the 1940s experiment with evolution?

 

[quatona]

Didn't Germany's scientists in the 1940s experiment with evolution?

And this is relevant for the question at hand exactly how?