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Correct you are.

Carbon 14 dating was another facet of many of science's hoaxes over the years. It is absolutely ineffective beyond a couple thousand years.

Carbon 14 dating is *not* ineffective beyond a couple thousand years. Please support your claim that it is not.
 
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For one, we Christians can view them as a mission field.

Hmm. I suspect they'll be highly resistant, but good luck.


It's too big and sudden a change, requiring too many mutations working together. The evolutionary process is much more gradual than that.
 
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It's too big and sudden a change, requiring too many mutations working together. The evolutionary process is much more gradual than that.

I think there's also the factor of why a fish would need to evolve a thumb in the first place.
 
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There are tons of holes in the theory of evolution. Probably one of the biggest is that life forms on earth are obviously the result of intelligent design. They are too complex with too many intricate systems working together in perfect harmony to be the result of random chance. In order for life forms to evolve into what they are today by random chance there would have to be an absolute astrological number of mutations taking place all over the earth, so much so that we would still be seeing signs of it. We don’t see any failed or incomplete attempts at evolution on the planet today nor do we see significant variations in different species mainly in humans. What we do see is the same basic structure and design in all humans. We don’t see people with a leg growing out of their neck or anything stupid like that in the design of human beings, we’re all basically designed identical with some small variations but still the same basic design. At the rate we are currently seeing evolution take place, which is no progress at all, it would take way more than 100 million years for us to evolve to what we are today simply by random chance or by billions of trial and error stages. In order for the theory of evolution to even be plausible DNA would have to possess some sort of intelligence in order to make the necessary changes in the mutation process. Instead what we see in DNA is an intelligent genetic code not random mutations taking place.

An opinion- gish about "holes" is not disproof,
it is just a display of inability to provide even
onre (1) FACT contrary to TOE.

Which creationist site do you favour for fake facts?
 
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Now, if such a creature did exist we would have to radically revise and perhaps abandon, evolutionary theory.
More like radically revise it.

I'm sure, over about thirty years, scientists would eventually find a place in their technobabble that they could fit this thing.

Maybe call it a "monotreme" or a "cryptid" or coin a new term for it?

Then work backward to connect it to one of their dots.
 
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Carbon 14 dating is *not* ineffective beyond a couple thousand years. Please support your claim that it is not.
Already done.
All "science" that says otherwise is a hoax.

You dont know of the dreaded

WWCOSASHSTOFSADG?

(World wide conspiracy of satanic and secular humanist scintists to
falsify science and defeat the word of God)
 
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An opinion- gish about "holes" is not disproof,
it is just a display of inability to provide even
onre (1) FACT contrary to TOE.

Which creationist site do you favour for fake facts?

I didn’t quote any websites, just going on common sense.
 
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An opinion- gish about "holes" is not disproof,
Translation: Missing links are just a link unto themselves? evidence pending? an invitation to keep looking?

That is, unless it concerns a global flood or Israelites in the desert, then it's considered "missing" because it was considered to never have been there in the first place.

This type of double standard just makes me want to give up a literal Genesis 1 and embrace evolution with open head arms! :rolleyes:
 
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All "science" that says otherwise is a hoax.
NTS?
Estrid said:
You don't know of the dreaded

WWCOSASHSTOFSADG?

(World wide conspiracy of satanic and secular humanist scientists to
falsify science and defeat the word of God)
You don't know of the dreaded

NTS?

(No True Scotsman)
 
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Science does not do " proof". Nobody with even modest
grasp of science would make that mistake.
The " no evidence" thing is simply false- a similar lack of
knowledge..

A theory is always open to disproof.
Nobody has ever found disproof of evolution.

An opinion based on religion and unfamiliarity with subject matter
is not disproof.
What do you call the fact that nobody has ever, in all of recorded history, found or shown any example of a KIND becoming a different KIND?

Is that proof that evolution is false?

Or is that disproof of evolution?

Choose.
 
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I don't see that you've proven Evolution in any way, shape or form.

Were you under the impression that posting an article in favor of Evolution somehow proves that a frog can naturally transform into a human being by inherent processes over a given period of time?

You were mistaken.
Of course, scientists do not attempt to prove theories. It’s impossible because theories are broad explanations, cover a wide range of phenomena, and we don’t know what might be discovered tomorrow. However, scientists do continuously attempt to disprove (invalidate) theories. Like all scientific theories, evolution meets all of the criteria of a valid scientific theory and has never been invalidated.

All evidence supports the validity of evolution.
 
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Knowing facts of science....lets try a quick test,
with just yes or no answers.

Were any dinosaurs as small as a chicken?

Did any flightless dinosaurs have feathers?

Do you get your " facts" from creationist sites?

Plz limit your answers to yes or no
I don't play games where you make all the rules, and set the parameters. The information I have provided, and that of many others here, is plenty sufficient to prove that evolution theory is a hilarious attempt at explaining away God and the Bible.

It is an insult to human intelligence and a woeful disgrace to our youth to teach it only in all public school systems without allowing the priceless future of our world to consider both possibilities and decide for themselves.

It is an outright dumbing down of the human mind.
 
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If you define macroevolution as the amount of evolution we can't observe, then it's certainly true that there's no proof of it. However, the theory is made to fit the evidence, so saying there's no evidence of it doesn't really make sense. This evidence includes such things as relationships in the DNA, trends in the fossil record, and the observed evolutionary process itself.
Right.

All the things that would prove evolution false.

'That's not allowed! You can't use evidence that proves evolution impossible. You must play by OUR rules and don't use those things.'
 
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You claim exactly that in this post. You claim to know that ToE is
false.
No scientist on earth knows this.

Evolution has not been proven false.
You again claim arcane knowledge beyond that
of any scientist on earth.
If i knew how to disprove it I would be on my way to
Stockholm for my acclaim for the greatest scientific
discovery of all time.

So plz, lets not deny the obvious.

There is no disproof.
Delusion and Cognitive Dissonance.

Refusal to see the plain truths of reality.

God enlightens the minds of His people with knowledge and wisdom.

The enemy blinds the eyes and darkens the minds of those who refuse to embrace the truth of God that is present in every single human being.

"They are without excuse."

Romans 1:18-21
 
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If only we had a classification system that separated all living things into their kinds.
Like "genus"?

From the online etymology dictionary:

Genus: 1550s as a term of logic, "kind or class of things" (biological sense dates from c. 1600), from Latin genus (genitive generis) "race, stock, kind; family, birth, descent, origin" (from suffixed form of PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups).
 
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I don't play games where you make all the rules, and set the parameters.
Neither do I.

Think about it.

If evolution is true, then we are mutant copy-errors, made in the image and likeness of God; and a great ape died on the Cross to effect our salvation.
 
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