Evolution False? Absolute proof inside.

[bhsmte]

Opiates is a class of many chemicals, sorry, didn't want to list them all out.

Most pain medications (at least the ones for moderate to severe pain) are opiate based drugs.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Most pain medications (at least the ones for moderate to severe pain) are opiate based drugs.

I know, but not all are used anymore except illegally. In the country in which I live, anyways.

 

[bhsmte]

I know, but not all are used anymore except illegally. In the country in which I live, anyways.

Really?

The following are all opiate based pain medications and are commonly prescribed in the United States and the FDA is more stringent than most countries equivalents to the FDA.

codeine (only available in generic form)
fentanyl (Actiq, Duragesic, Fentora)
hydrocodone (Lorcet, Lortab, Norco, Vicodin)
hydromorphone (Dilaudid, Exalgo)
meperidine (Demerol)
methadone (Dolophine, Methadose)
morphine (Avinza, Kadian, MS Contin, Ora-Morph SR)
oxycodone (OxyContin, Oxyfast, Percocet, Roxicodone

 

[PsychoSarah]

Really?

The following are all opiate based pain medications and are commonly prescribed in the United States and the FDA is more stringent than most countries equivalents to the FDA.

codeine (only available in generic form)
fentanyl (Actiq, Duragesic, Fentora)
hydrocodone (Lorcet, Lortab, Norco, Vicodin)
hydromorphone (Dilaudid, Exalgo)
meperidine (Demerol)
methadone (Dolophine, Methadose)
morphine (Avinza, Kadian, MS Contin, Ora-Morph SR)
oxycodone (OxyContin, Oxyfast, Percocet, Roxicodone

I said not ALL were used anymore, not that the majority weren't.

 

[AV1611VET]

Seriously AV, there are so many drugs that were used as medicine, I don't know how you managed to pick one of the few which wasn't.

Meth
Cocaine
Marijuana (it's made a bit of a comeback)
Opium
Alcohol (the beer kind, yup)
Heroin

Seriously, all those were at some point in time used commonly as medicines.

So was Thalidomide.

 

[PsychoSarah]

So was Thalidomide.

Rolls eyes, and if we go back to biblical times, sprinkling bird's blood, on a house. Medicine is forever a work in progress.

 

[TLK Valentine]

So was Thalidomide.

Which is still useful in treating conditions such as leprosy and some HIV-related infections.

 

[createdtoworship]

the mysterious Cambrian explosion:

obviously not complete but that the ALL major phyla showed up from no where, and have not gone away since.

its' a problem because of this:

Dr. Paul Chien is chairman of the biology department at the University of San Francisco. He has extensively explored the mysteries of the marvelous Cambrian fossils in Chengjiang, China. Moreover, Chien possesses the largest collection of Chinese Cambrian fossils in North America. In an interview with Real Issue he remarked, “A simple way of putting it is that currently we have about 38 phyla of different groups of animals, but the total number of phyla discovered during that period of time (including those in China, Canada, and elsewhere) adds up to over 50 phyla. That means [there are] more phyla in the very, very beginning, where we found the first fossils [of animal life], than exist now. Stephen J. Gould, [a Harvard University evolutionary biologist], has referred to this as the reverse cone of diversity. The theory of evolution implies that things get more and more complex and get more and more diverse from one single origin. But the whole thing turns out to be reversed. We have more diverse groups in the very beginning, and in fact more and more of them die off over time, and we have less and less now.”- from genesispark.com

Darwin's Dilemma - YouTube

video get interesting about 17 minutes into it when it speaks of darwins doubts over the cambrian explosion:

"IN the sixth chapter I enumerated the chief objections which might be justly urged against the views maintained in this volume. Most of them have now been discussed. One, namely the distinctness of specific forms, and their not being blended together by innumerable transitional links, is a very obvious difficulty...."

origin of species, Darwin

read context here:
X. On the Imperfection of the Geological Record. On the Absence of Intermediate Varieties at the Present Day. Darwin, Charles Robert. 1909-14. Origin of Species. The Harvard Classics


again he doubts:
" To the question why we do not find rich fossiliferous deposits belonging to these assumed earliest periods prior to the Cambrian system, I can give no satisfactory answer. "

origin of species, darwin

X. On the Imperfection of the Geological Record. On the Sudden Appearance of Groups of Allied Species in the Lowest Known Fossiliferous Strata. Darwin, Charles Robert. 1909-14. Origin of Species. The Harvard Classics

I see all have dodged this one. While I am gone you can ponder this debate. After all it's what is being pushed by the Teach the controversy political agenda. I believe it's legitimate, and after posting this three times in the last day or so, no one has challenged it. anyway, think about it, ttyl

 

[AV1611VET]

Rolls eyes, and if we go back to biblical times, sprinkling bird's blood, on a house.

For what purpose was this done, Sarah?

Leviticus 14:48 And if the priest shall come in, and look upon it, and, behold, the plague hath not spread in the house, after the house was plaistered: then the priest shall pronounce the house clean, because the plague is healed.
Leviticus 14:49 And he shall take to cleanse the house two birds, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:

Please read the above passage carefully and note that birds aren't even factored into the equation until the house is already pronounced "clean."

The cooties have left the building ... time for the birds now.

 

[AV1611VET]

Which is still useful in treating conditions such as leprosy and some HIV-related infections.

And so is LSD still in use.

What's your point?

 

[PsychoSarah]

For what purpose was this done, Sarah?

Leviticus 14:48 And if the priest shall come in, and look upon it, and, behold, the plague hath not spread in the house, after the house was plaistered: then the priest shall pronounce the house clean, because the plague is healed.
Leviticus 14:49 And he shall take to cleanse the house two birds, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:

Please read the above passage carefully and note that birds aren't even factored into the equation until the house is already pronounced "clean."

The cooties have left the building ... time for the birds now.

Ok, now that actually makes even less sense to kill birds for a house which is already free of plague. But that wasn't really the point and you know it.

 

[PsychoSarah]

And so is LSD still in use.

What's your point?

LSD is not prescribed for illnesses anymore AV. In fact it never was, I told you this.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ok, now that actually makes even less sense to kill birds for a house which is already free of plague.

It doesn't have to make sense, you just have to be obedient and do it.

And FYI, all this ceremonial death and bloodshed points to the Cross.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Ehh,
Okay, so he says carbon dating and many other ways proves a young earth, the carbon dating way is, that after so many years the carbon splits in half, so if a dinasour bone was found it could not have any carbon if it was billions of years old, sense all of the carbon would be gone from splitting in half, sense it splits in half after a few years, so therefor, it can not be that old, because scientists find carbon inside disasour bones, around as big as a finger nail, which if it was that old, would be litterly impossible.

The stupid is strong in this one. And the gullibility is even stronger in you.

Shall we go in debate of this one?

There's nothing to debate about. Nonsense assertions without evidence can be dissmissed without evidence.

theres many other ones too.

Do they exhibit the same level of sheer ignorance and stupidity?

such as evidence of the flood, sea shells on mount everest found in the 1950's.

Ok, so I guess they DO exhibit the same level sheer ignorance and stupidity.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Scientists use carbon dating to find out if somethings billions of years old.

Radiocarbon dating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Radiocarbon dating (or simply carbon dating) is a radiometric dating technique that uses the decay of carbon-14 (

14​

C) to estimate the age of organic materials, such as wood and leather, up to about 58,000 to 62,000 years Before Present(BP, present defined as CE 1950)

Why do you lie?

and that proves the flood, because how could seashells get on top of the mountain and so called turn in to fossils?

CC364: Marine fossils on mountains



If you had paid attention during high school geology, you would have learned that the mountains we see today weren't always there. Mountains are created due to tectonic activity below them. This activity pushes the ground upwards, creating a mountain.

Tectonic activity furthermore also constantly reshapes the surface of the planet. What used to be below water can be lifted above water and vice versa.

 

[TLK Valentine]

It doesn't have to make sense, you just have to be obedient and do it.

Well, there's the fundie mantra in a nutshell: "Don't question me, just obey me."

And FYI, all this ceremonial death and bloodshed points to the Cross.

Other way around, actually, all that writing about the cross pointed back towards the death and bloodshed.

 

[AV1611VET]

This Arab phone moment brought to you by:

It doesn't have to make sense,

Don't question me,

 

[TLK Valentine]

And so is LSD still in use.

What's your point?

Point is it cures diseases.

What have you done lately?

 

[AV1611VET]

Point is it cures diseases.

Alcoholism is a disease, is it?

What have you done lately?

Shown them some preventive medicine.

 

[PsychoSarah]

It doesn't have to make sense, you just have to be obedient and do it.

And FYI, all this ceremonial death and bloodshed points to the Cross.

you do realize actually following these directions would spread disease, not prevent it, right?