Evolution details

[xianghua]

Example?

see here:

Syncytin-A knockout mice demonstrate the critical role in placentation of a fusogenic, endogenous retrovirus-derived, envelope gene

 

[Doctor.Sphinx]

see here:

Syncytin-A knockout mice demonstrate the critical role in placentation of a fusogenic, endogenous retrovirus-derived, envelope gene

I do like the detailed evidence disproving evolution, but if the evolutionists won't accept the simple things, I doubt they're gonna be convinced by the more complicated.

For example, if someone believes a go-kart can come about by chance, he's not going to change his view even when it comes to a jeep.

 

[Nithavela]

see here:

Syncytin-A knockout mice demonstrate the critical role in placentation of a fusogenic, endogenous retrovirus-derived, envelope gene

Quite interesting, but I don't really see the problem.

Some ancestors of mammal species like primates, mice or carnivores were infected with such a virus that changed the DNA and proved advantegeous in creating a specific protein in the placenta and thus creating a special layer of cells.

Other species, like pigs or horses, weren't infected by this virus, don't have this retrovirus DNA in their system and don't produce this enzyme. They are still perfectly able to procreate. If they ever were infected with this retrovirus DNA, maybe it would prove advantageous for them as well.

 

[Nithavela]

Is that the answer given by evolutionists, rather than endeavoring to explain the simple questions that evolution can't really explain? No matter, I didn't expect that you'd be able to answer it using evolutionary theory, its just refreshing to come across an evolutionist who is so honest about the theory's shortcomings with respect to the simple matters.

If you really want me to answer the question "if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys", you're not worth my time.

Even creationist websites like Answers in Genesis call that question nonsense.

If Humans Evolved from Apes, Why Do Apes Exist Today?

 

[Doctor.Sphinx]

If you really want me to answer the question "if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys", you're not worth my time.

Even creationist websites like Answers in Genesis call that question nonsense.

If Humans Evolved from Apes, Why Do Apes Exist Today?

I guess not all creationists are the same, the same as all evolutionists are not the same, right? But not being able to answer the question does leave a rather gaping hole in your theory, doesn't it?

 

[Nithavela]

I guess not all creationists are the same, the same as all evolutionists are not the same, right? But not being able to answer the question does leave a rather gaping hole in your theory, doesn't it?

Just because I don't feel like playing "answer the PRATT" with you doesn't mean I can't answer it, I just consider it beneath me.

 

[Doctor.Sphinx]

Just because I don't feel like playing "answer the PRATT" with you doesn't mean I can't answer it, I just consider it beneath me.

And just because you keep making excuses about why you won't answer the question (instead of actually answering), doesn't mean its a question evolutionists can provide an answer for which is consistent with their religion.

 

[Speedwell]

Is that the answer given by evolutionists, rather than endeavoring to explain the simple questions that evolution can't really explain? No matter, I didn't expect that you'd be able to answer it using evolutionary theory, its just refreshing to come across an evolutionist who is so honest about the theory's shortcomings with respect to the simple matters.

The question I have for you is, why should there not still be monkeys?

Of course, the theory of evolution does not claim we evolved from monkeys, rather it claims that we and monkeys both evolved from a common ancestor, and that's why there are still monkeys.

 

[Tom 1]

If you really want me to answer the question "if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys", you're not worth my time.

Even creationist websites like Answers in Genesis call that question nonsense.

If Humans Evolved from Apes, Why Do Apes Exist Today?

What is the process of evolution from the common ancestor according to the theory, as you understand it? Are all Homo species thought to share the same ancestor?

 

[Doctor.Sphinx]

The question I have for you is, why should there not still be monkeys?

Of course, the theory of evolution does not claim we evolved from monkeys, rather it claims that we and monkeys both evolved from a common ancestor, and that's why there are still monkeys.

Well, if there are still monkeys, why not then every single link between monkey and man? Surely a monkey didn't just one day give birth to a man? (Actually, it would need to be twins, a male and female, unless evolutionists believed a few different monkeys gave birth to a few different men and women).

 

[Nithavela]

What is the process of evolution from the common ancestor according to the theory, as you understand it? Are all Homo species thought to share the same ancestor?

I don't know, man, I didn't do it.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

... the flu virus mutates (evolves) regularly to compensate for the vaccinations prepared to deal with it.

No - the flu virus mutates regardless of vaccinations. Vaccinations provide a mild selection pressure in favour of flu viruses that have mutated.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Exactly. Evolution can't even answer the simple questions, such as "If evolution is true, why are there still monkeys?"

Here's an explanation you might be able to follow: Why are there still Monkeys?

 

[Speedwell]

Well, if there are still monkeys, why not then every single link between monkey and man? Surely a monkey didn't just one day give birth to a man? (Actually, it would need to be twins, a male and female, unless evolutionists believed a few different monkeys gave birth to a few different men and women).

There is only one link between monkey and man: the common ancestor. From that ancestor a line descended which eventually became monkeys and an another line of descent which eventually became humans. Neither the change from common ancestor to human, nor the change from common ancestor to monkey happened in one generation, but gradually over many generations.

You don't really know very much about the theory of evolution, do you. Do you want to learn about it? Or are you just here to show off how well you can knock over a straw man?

 

[Doctor.Sphinx]

There is only one link between monkey and man: the common ancestor. From that ancestor a line descended which eventually became monkeys and an another line of descent which eventually became humans. Neither the change from common ancestor to human, nor the change from common ancestor to monkey happened in one generation, but gradually over many generations.

You don't really know very much about the theory of evolution, do you. Do you want to learn about it? Or are you just here to show off how well you can knock over a straw man?

I'm here to show your religion has no evidence. If there are monkeys, and there are men, where are the common ancestors for monkeys and men? Where are the missing links? If the common ancestor and missing links have died out, why are there still monkeys? Evolutionism is an inconsistent religion, at best.

 

[Speedwell]

I'm here to show your religion has no evidence. If there are monkeys, and there are men, where are the common ancestors for monkeys and men? Where are the missing links? If the common ancestor and missing links have died out, why are there still monkeys? Evolutionism is an inconsistent religion, at best.

If your grandfather is dead, how come you still have cousins?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

but we know about species that cant survive without retroviruses.

Citation?

Every eukaryotic cell is probably an example of an external acquisition (mitochondria) that the organism subsequently became dependent on. If an organism acquires an organelle or some genetic material that eventually performs a useful function, it may become dependent on it.

If, for example, the acquired genetic material becomes involved in coding for an enzyme that outperforms an existing enzyme, there will no longer be a selection pressure to conserve the original enzyme gene, and very likely a selection pressure to cease expressing the original enzyme gene because of its wasted resource usage. So either genetic drift or selection pressure will see the original become non-functional over time. This will result in a dependency on the acquired code.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I'm here to show your religion has no evidence. If there are monkeys, and there are men, where are the common ancestors for monkeys and men? Where are the missing links? If the common ancestor and missing links have died out, why are there still monkeys? Evolutionism is an inconsistent religion, at best.

It's sad to see such persistent efforts to criticize a straw man.

Tilting at windmills; such a waste of time and energy.

 

[Tom 1]

I don't know, man, I didn't do it.

Is that a tacit acknowledgment that somebody did do it?

 

[Nithavela]

It's sad to see such persistent efforts to criticize a straw man.

Tilting at windmills; such a waste of time and energy.