Evolution can never be science.

[joshua 1 9]

Good call!

You just can not help yourself can you?

 

[bhsmte]

You just can not help yourself can you?

Irony!

 

[joshua 1 9]

Don't you think that is a very arrogant and unsupportable claim, Joshua? I mean, you claiming you know far more about it than all these scientists and therefore can correct them?

Some of those so called experts in science do not even have a elementary level of understanding when it comes to the Bible and Creationism. Now a days people are highly specialized and are only qualified for their little tiny niche and that does not qualify them when it comes to general knowledge the way people use to get a well rounded education.

 

[Hoghead1]

Don't you think that is a very arrogant and unsupportable claim, Joshua? I mean, you claiming you know far more about it than all these scientists and therefore can correct them?

 

[joshua 1 9]

That is because science does not deal with the unfalsifiable. Science only deals with the physical world. Now why don't you just leave science out of your religion just as science stays out of yours.

Science simply does not know how to test for God. If they knew what they were doing, they would find Him. "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you"

This is all really very easy, Jesus preached ONE sermon, the sermon on the mount. All we need in life is to follow that one teaching. This is so easy a child can understand but the PhD's do not seem to understand. Why is it so difficult for people to understand something so very easy?

 

[bhsmte]

Science simply does not know how to test for God. If they knew what they were doing, they would find Him. "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you"

This is all really very easy, Jesus preached ONE sermon, the sermon on the mount. All we need in life is to follow that one teaching. This is so easy a child can understand but the PhD's do not seem to understand. Why is it so difficult for people to understand something so very easy?

I guess you would need to demonstrate how your last paragraph is a reliable test.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I guess you would need to demonstrate how your last paragraph is a reliable test.

Do what the Bible says to do and you will get the results the Bible says you will get. If you do not do your part then do not expect God to do His part. This is what covenant theology is all about. A covenant is a: "contract, agreement, undertaking, commitment, guarantee, warrant, pledge, promise, bond, indenture; pact, deal, settlement, arrangement,understanding"

Deu7:9 "Know therefore that the LORD your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments."

God watches over His word to perform it.

 

[bhsmte]

Do what the Bible says to do and you will get the results the Bible says you will get. If you do not do your part then do not expect God to do His part. This is what covenant theology is all about. A covenant is a: "contract, agreement, undertaking, commitment, guarantee, warrant, pledge, promise, bond, indenture; pact, deal, settlement, arrangement,understanding"

Deu7:9 "Know therefore that the LORD your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments."

God watches over His word to perform it.

And this is a verifiable and falsifiable test, how exactly?

 

[joshua 1 9]

And this is a verifiable and falsifiable test, how exactly?

We seem to be living in the dictionary here. Do you know what a promise is: "a statement telling someone that you will definitely do something". The Bible is filled with promises. IF you do your part, If you do what YOUR suppose to do then you can know for sure that God will do His part of the promise. There are lots and lots and lots of promises of God. Find one, do your part and you can be sure that God will do His part. This is what you need to do if you want to test for God to see if He is faithful and true. If you do nothing then you can expect that God will do nothing also.

We did not invent God. We need to discover God and learn what He is all about. Take time to seek and to learn all the benefits that God has for us. The main thing to remember is that God is good. He will only do good in our lives. So when we ask we have to be sure to ask for something that is good or beneficial. He will not give us something that is harmful for us.

Ask, Seek, Knock
7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

 

[bhsmte]

We seem to be living in the dictionary here. Do you know what a promise is: "a statement telling someone that you will definitely do something". The Bible is filled with promises. IF you do your part, If you do what YOUR suppose to do then you can know for sure that God will do His part of the promise. There are lots and lots and lots of promises of God. Find one, do your part and you can be sure that God will do His part. This is what you need to do if you want to test for God to see if He is faithful and true. If you do nothing then you can expect that God will do nothing also.

We did not invent God. We need to discover God and learn what He is all about. Take time to seek and to learn all the benefits that God has for us. The main thing to remember is that God is good. He will only do good in our lives. So when we ask we have to be sure to ask for something that is good or beneficial. He will not give us something that is harmful for us.

Ask, Seek, Knock
7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Thanks for the preaching, but let me know when you can demonstrate you have a test which is able to be objectively verified and falsifiable.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Thanks for the preaching, but let me know when you can demonstrate you have a test which is able to be objectively verified and falsifiable.

I am trying to show you that, but you are not listening and you are not paying attention. Wake up from your slumber!

 

[bhsmte]

I am trying to show you that, but you are not listening and you are not paying attention. Wake up from your slumber!

You have not demonstrated an objective and falsifiable test. You have mostly preached.

 

[davedajobauk]

Is evolution supposed to be altruistic ?

 

[Black Dog]

This is all really very easy, Jesus preached ONE sermon, the sermon on the mount. All we need in life is to follow that one teaching. This is so easy a child can understand but the PhD's do not seem to understand. Why is it so difficult for people to understand something so very easy?

Why do you think this is such a good sermon? For instance: "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth." is demonstrably wrong. The meek inherit poverty, the rich, people like Donald Trump, have inherited the earth. Do you think Donald Trump is meek?

As well, "And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." is not a good way to live your life.

At some point in your life, you must have seen something that offended you. Did you pluck your eye out? I doubt it. Why? Because that is some bad advice.

I can give a bunch more examples if you're interested.

EDIT: WAIT WAIT WAIT!!! I changed my mind, it's ALL very good advice:

"Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away."

I would like a one hundred thousand dollar interest free loan, repayable in 1000 years. Let me know when you have your end ready, and I'll give you my lawyer's info. Thanks.

 

[Larniavc]

LOL and they fuse within a stream of photons and electrons

"you cannot take-out MORE than you put in" LOL

How profoundly meaningless.

 

[bhsmte]

Is evolution supposed to be altruistic ?

What do you think?

What about germ theory? Is germ theory supposed to be altruistic?

 

[Larniavc]

Is evolution supposed to be altruistic ?

No.

Evolution can be but it is not 'supposed' to be.

My turn: is evolution supposed to be inquisitive?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Again that is the difference between your dictionary and the dictionary I use. This is the difference between eternal and temporal.

So you're just making stuff up then.
Good to know.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Why do you think this is such a good sermon? For instance: "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth." is demonstrably wrong. The meek inherit poverty, the rich, people like Donald Trump, have inherited the earth. Do you think Donald Trump is meek?

Donald Trump is not rich. He works for the rich to manage their property. Pretty much the way a slum land lord manages property only Trump gets to manage more expensive property. He does not actually own it. He works for the people that owns the property. Donald Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times, in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009. My thoughts are that is why the rich people are supporting him for president. So he can take this country through the bankruptcy brought on by the Obama administration. Trump does not like rich people, he does not like the people he works for. But he really has no choice because of all of his debts.

 

[Goonie]

Donald Trump is not rich. He works for the rich to manage their property. Pretty much the way a slum land lord manages property only Trump gets to manage more expensive property. He does not actually own it. He works for the people that owns the property. Donald Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times, in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009. My thoughts are that is why the rich people are supporting him for president. So he can take this country through the bankruptcy brought on by the Obama administration. Trump does not like rich people, he does not like the people he works for. But he really has no choice because of all of his debts.

Sorry but trump compared to the vast majority of people is rich, only the wealthy can afford to go bankrupt on multiple occasions.