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Evolution - and their take over/destruction of science

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Arius

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You just love making up complete rubbish don't you?

Look how nicely I presented it, and even used my spelling-checkerer to make sure I spelled everything correctly, and all the time I put into it and you call it "rubbish"?

Whack! Thank you, .. may I have another please?
 
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Look how nicely I presented it, and even used my spelling-checkerer to make sure I spelled everything correctly, and all the time I put into it and you call it "rubbish"?

Whack! Thank you, .. may I have another please?

It is rubbish because there's nothing factual about it and no matter how you try and present it, all it does is show that you know absolutely nothing about the very thing you're arguing against. So, yes, it is rubbish.
 
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It is rubbish because there's nothing factual about it and no matter how you try and present it, all it does is show that you know absolutely nothing about the very thing you're arguing against. So, yes, it is rubbish.

You see there is a difference between "not knowing what I'm talking about", .. and "not agreeing with you". You should start learning, and accepting the difference between those two.
It's OK to be wrong, who can blame you since we all been indoctrinated for sooo long.
 
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You see there is a difference between "not knowing what I'm talking about", .. and "not agreeing with you". You should start learning, and accepting the difference between those two.
It's OK to be wrong, who can blame you since we all been indoctrinated for sooo long.

No, it's certainly not me not agreeing with you. It's most certainly you not knowing what you're talking about and you reveling in it.
If you did know what you were talking about, you would definitely not take the stance that the theory of evolution was created to promote racism, since it never says anything of the sort.
 
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Faith - a belief set backed by no evidence

You "believe" your ancestors are 30% north European.
Is that a faith?
Are there evidences for that?

You can not define "faith" any better than what the Bible does.
 
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You "believe" your ancestors are 30% north European.
Is that a faith?
Are there evidences for that?

You can not define "faith" any better than what the Bible does.
Yes there's evidence for my ancestry. And yes I can define faith and have
 
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You "believe" your ancestors are 30% north European.
Is that a faith?
Are there evidences for that?

You can not define "faith" any better than what the Bible does.

Faith is believing in something you know ain't true.
 
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Answer my question: where does Dawkins use science, using your words, "to convince people that Jews, Gypsies, and other non-Germans were rats," or are you just making that up?

And for the record: I WILL keep asking this question until you give a direct quote or admit that you made it up.


So go ahead, strike me down, I have answered you, but I am still waiting for your (and other atheist Evolutionists answer to my question?
 
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You know, the color gradient between the two distinct species, specifically the "Red species and the Blue species", where the millions of in-between are slowly and agonizingly dying out like your "common ancestors" did? Where Are they??

Well, I don't agree with the "slowly and agonizingly dying out" part - many of our predecessor species lived for millions of years longer than homo sapiens sapiens have managed - but here's a partial list of identified ancestor species since pan-hominini (ancestors of modern chimps-ancestors of modern humans) split leading up to anatomically and behaviourally modern humans.

Graecopithecus freybergi;
Sahelanthropus tchadensis;
Orrorin tugenensis;
Ardipithecus kadabba;
Ardipithecus ramidus;
Kenyanthropus platyops;
Australopithecus anamensis;
Australopithecus afarensis;
Australopithecus bahrelghazali;
Australopithecus deyiremeda;
Australopithecus sediba;
Australopithecus africanus;
Australopithecus garhi;
Paranthropus aethiopicus;
Paranthropus robustus;
Paranthropus boisei;
Homo habilis;
Homo rudolfensis;
Homo rhodesiensis
Homo gautengensis;
Homo heidelbergensis;
Homo ergaster;
Homo naledi;
Homo erectus;
Homo sapiens;
Homo sapiens tsaichangensis;
Homo sapiens neanderthalensis;
Homo sapiens altai (Denisovans);
Homo sapiens sapiens

This is by no means an exhaustive list.
There are several pieces of fossil evidence that we can't identify what type of hominid they were. Whether they're a new species all-together or an already known species we can't tell, because their remains are so fragmentary;
Then there's all the new species being discovered - we've only known about Denisovans since 2010, and we've only known about Homo naledi since 2013. So, that list is going to get longer and longer.
Then there's the ones that the jury is still out on - like the Homo cepranensis and Homo antecessor and some potential modern/archaic hybrids. Which might be separate species, or they might not. Because the graduations are fairly fine and nature doesn't produce nice clear delineations for us between species A, B, C, D, E when they can interbreed, hybridise and lived in the same general areas for several million years.

As to where the millions of gradations are - they're dead. Some of them might be fossilised. And we might be lucky to find these. But, I suspect no amount of fossil evidence, no amount of any evidence, will ever sway you from your position, which is clearly an emotional one, rather than a rational one.
 
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It has, and it is true, but it should be noted because we live in what is God's mind, science really is flawed at a deep conceptual level -- besides that the scientific method does not allow for subjectivity. (Which is found both in quantum physics and in psychology.)

If you want to see science as it is today, imagine being ten thousand years in the future, then imagine how wrong we must be on so many things. [Hypothetically, obviously, as by then everyone will know these truths.]

Science is also fundamentally wrong where they insist only "the natural" exists and anything "supernatural" does not. It is the supernatural which actually is what exists, and the natural does not exist at all. It is but an illusion, a construct, in God's "mind".
 
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It has, and it is true, but it should be noted because we live in what is God's mind, science really is flawed at a deep conceptual level -- besides that the scientific method does not allow for subjectivity. (Which is found both in quantum physics and in psychology.)

If you want to see science as it is today, imagine being ten thousand years in the future, then imagine how wrong we must be on so many things. [Hypothetically, obviously, as by then everyone will know these truths.]

Science is also fundamentally wrong where they insist only "the natural" exists and anything "supernatural" does not. It is the supernatural which actually is what exists, and the natural does not exist at all. It is but an illusion, a construct, in God's "mind".
If this is what passes for deep insight in your world, I'll take the blue pill thanks.
 
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So go ahead, strike me down, I have answered you, but I am still waiting for your (and other atheist Evolutionists answer to my question?

No, you haven't answered me at all.
Answer my question: where does Dawkins use science, using your words, "to convince people that Jews, Gypsies, and other non-Germans were rats," or are you just making that up?

And for the record: I WILL keep asking this question until you give a direct quote or admit that you made it up.
 
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Oh no sir, you don't have to ask for permission from me. If the Mod's were OK with it, so am I.

Then why are you complaining?
And why would any mod have a problem with my avatar?
And why are we still talking about this?

Look, .. I understand, and I'm sorry if my questioning your avatar offended you, and now I will try not to look at your avatar so I can refocus my attention on the discussion (not much of a discussion since you guys won't specify the specific species I requested)

We've explained at length why your request is both meaningless as well as unreasonable.

Don't blame us for your inability to listen and/or comprehend what is being said.
 
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