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Evolution - and their take over/destruction of science

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No, it's a lie. You have provided ZERO evidence throughout this thread, only your own insipid claims, your outrageous lies about the theory of evolution and your stunningly poor grasp of both history and science.
Like the claim that evolution is similar to Satan worship? A classic case of someone who knows absolutely nothing about evolution trying to stroke his own ego.
 
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You do know that’s actually the plot of Moonraker?

Less tele for you, I think.
 
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It's funny that, throughout this whole thread, not once has it been shown how the theory of evolution is 'destroying' science.
That’s because hypothesis testing has been destroyed by evolution.
 
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Yes.

The message is a foolish message.

1 Corinthians 1:18
For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
 
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Thank you for responding, that's why I gave some fuel for the fire: "You Arius are ignorant of the Evolution theory", .. but you see that fire is only in your heads. It doesn't exist, just like planets, the globe earth, gravity, NASA Big-Banged space etc.


Yes, I understand, and you guys keep saying that if I agree with you guys you wouldn't consider me stupid doesn't prove anything. What I require is evidence, answer my questions without repeating the same closed minded Religious doctrine: "Well duh, evolution takes a long time and there is no individual in a population, where not individuals change, but in Evolution Doctrine the whole population changes, .. as you do here again, like the rest of your Evolutionist buddies.

Here's an important hint: Nobody says that speciation occurs by one species suddenly giving birth to another species. Populations of individuals evolve as a group, and no parent is ever a different species from its offspring.

My friend, if you still don't "see" the error in what you are saying, even though I have pointed it out in sooo many different ways, then I cannot help you.
Religions do that, closed minded faith (belief without evidence).

Once again: According to the Evolution doctrines, did, or did not amoeba evolve/speciate over the 4.2 billion years into apes like gorillas, which evolved into chimps, bonobos and humans, .. or not? Yes, slooowly, .. over 4.2 billion years like, over millions and billions and trillions of generations, is that slow enough for you?

1. I gave you 4.2 BILLION years, is that enough or not? I can give you more if you want? I gave you trillions of generations, is that enough? You want more, .. I can give you more.
2. Don't give me different bugs and lizards and frogs, my question is specifically the claim of skull & bones worshipping Evolutionists calling me and my family animals of the ape family, because some black African Pigmies look like little apes. I did not come up with that, YOU Evolutionists came up with those crude and discriminating ideas as I have shown time and again.

Show how a gorilla, or a "population of gorillas" evolve, or are evolving into human? After 4 billion years, surely we should have all the evidence of populations of different looking living apes, like a population loosing their hair, a population living in caves, a population building fires, .. making wheels, talking about religion, inventing gods, .. yes, populations of them, .. where are they?

Here is what we have; "claims" look at it please,


on that collage of apes, .. you notice something different? Can you spot the picture that does NOT belong?
I bet any 2 year old could "spot the difference", where something just doesn't fit!? Can you find it?

Calling people "animal" and apes is not nice. It was NEVER nice, only demented, and possessed people would consider calling other humans animals, and apes, and telling them their ancestors were rats as "smart and scientific".
I'm sorry, but I cannot agree with you on that even if you will go on calling me stupid.

Right: There is information for you. And what are you going to do? Read up on that and understand that aspect of evolution from now on (smart), or just keep on making the same completely wrong claims and straw men (stupid)?

It's up to you.

My God, .. what "information" are you talking about? This, that: "Populations of individuals evolve as a group, and no parent is ever a different species from its offspring", .. is this it? That even though an entire population evolves from gorilla to human, but no parent is different species from it's offspring"? and you don't see something terribly wrong with your statement?
How the hell does a gorilla evolve into the illusive, unknown species you guys call "Common Ancestor" then, if they always stay gorillas?
LOL, .. so either I accept Evolution Religion on blind faith (smart), or keep showing you guys evidence of the lies, the misconceptions, the paradoxes which you will consider (stupid).
Look, I only had 2 years of MK-ultra public education, so calling me stupid if I don't agree with you will not make me believe I am stupid.

Now since I am a man of science, Evidence can convince me if I'm wrong, .. but not just calling me stupid, just because I don't agree with you. Didn't I tell you that I have stepped out of the box, out of the confines of Religious Indoctrination?

Now again for the hundredth time, please answer my question above?
Thank you.
 
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Yes.

The message is a foolish message.

1 Corinthians 1:18
For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

This is a science forum. Any science behind that scripture?
 
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No, it seems perfectly clear to us and we are astonished that you are having a problem with it.
How the hell does a gorilla evolve into the illusive, unknown species you guys call "Common Ancestor" then, if they always stay gorillas?
No, the common ancestory evolves into a gorilla, not a gorilla into a common ancestor.
LOL, .. so either I accept Evolution Religion on blind faith (smart), or keep showing you guys evidence of the lies, the misconceptions, the paradoxes which you will consider (stupid).
We don't care whether you accept the theory of evolution or not. All we are trying to do is tell you what it actually says.
 
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Yes, .. so where are they? Remember the "color gradient" you guys shown me? Where are all those species between gorilla and human?
Or why did all the human apes loose their hair, .. huh?
Or, where are all the different humans that have kept all their hair, but are as, or even more intelligent than us? What's so evolved about loosing our hair and having to clothe ourselves? You call that "Evolution"?

I know, how about the human-apes that kept their body hair, grew four arms, and another set of eyes in the back of their head? Tell me that wouldn't improve our survivability, and cut cost in buying clothes?
 
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Oh, and finding a bunch of short beaked finches and line them up with gradually longer beaks is not acceptable either. I can show you just from my family of 7 siblings height difference from 5'5" to 5'11".

You said....

“Did any of the 8 million scientists alive today, or those who have passed on over the past 100 years ever witness any of these 'species type' like a short beaked finch evolve a longer beak, .. huh? ANYONE, EVER, have they?”

Which is EXACTLY the case with the Blackcaps.

Forget the excuses, obfuscation and inventing ridiculous parodies of what the paper cited. If you can’t be honest you don’t deserve anyone’s time.

Good luck to you, keep up the good work of making creatists look like dishonest halfwits.
 
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You are aware that racism pre-dates the theory of evolution aren’t you?
 
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No, it seems perfectly clear to us and we are astonished that you are having a problem with it.
No, the common ancestory evolves into a gorilla, not a gorilla into a common ancestor.


Time 0:21 so it was either a population of chimps, bonobos or the white suburban housewife ape evolved into a common ancestor?
That's a new twist on evolution?
But why not, I have always asked that question; how do you know that a population of humans didn't get smart, and grow hair, give up all the hustle and bustle of city life, go into the woods and evolve into gorillas? You know, survival of the fittest, a gorilla can take on ten humans, and they can talk all they want while we tear their arms off, talking and all their intelligence ain't going to save them!

We don't care whether you accept the theory of evolution or not. All we are trying to do is tell you what it actually says.

I know what it says, and what this Evolution Religion claims, and as I have been showing you, it's not very nice, even cruel, the whole idea is inhumane and very dangerous as I have shown from history.

Jesus loves you, why keep and defend such cruel, cold hearted, discriminating Religion like this, over choosing a life with Christ?
 
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Does it ever occur to you that it could possibly the case that you don’t have a better understanding of biology than all the universities and scientific organisations of the world?
 
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You are aware that racism pre-dates the theory of evolution aren’t you?

Oh yes I do, .. and it was bad enough, but do you think making up a Religion that discriminates, belittles, dehumanize like this Evolution Religion will solve racism? Remember Ota Benga and the hundreds of millions of blacks that have been tortured and killed over the few centuries because of this ideology, this belief system!?
 
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Except that evolution DOES NONE OF THAT. Where in the theory of evolution and in any of Darwin's writing's say that people MUST discriminate against other people for evolution to be true?
I'll save you the time and effort: IT DOESN'T!
 
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How the hell does a gorilla evolve into the illusive, unknown species you guys call "Common Ancestor"
I think this is why you have been characterised as ignorant.

A gorilla evolving into the common ancestor of what exactly?

The gorilla did not evolve into the common ancestor of gorillas and humans.

I’ve never seen anyone make this mistake in my 15 or so years of debating creos.
 
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Mostly, that paragraph is correct.


This is better than what you were saying before. Which was asking to see one parent give birth to a different species.

So, yes, 4.2 billion years is long enough. The first amoeba was approximately 2.1 Billion years ago, so it appears that only half that time was required.

1. I gave you 4.2 BILLION years, is that enough or not? I can give you more if you want? I gave you trillions of generations, is that enough? You want more, .. I can give you more.

You are agreeing with me. I'm not sure why you are doing it in such a manner as you are. However, I'm happy that you are agreeing with me. However, let's see what happens next.


I think that you bringing out and out racism into this discussion is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. Hence, I bow out of this discussion now as I have no wish to interact with people such as you.
 
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