Evidence that homosexuality is wrong..?

[RMDY]

God didn't create male and female so they could pervert themselves in homosexual passions and desires.

 

[RMDY]

Let me ask you one thing: Can you argue, other than by the authority of Jesus, that fornication is wrong?

 

[naotmaa]

Were these addressed to me?

God didn't create male and female so they could pervert themselves in homosexual passions and desires.

If so: So you're saying there is no evidence outside the bible that homosexuality is wrong?

Let me ask you one thing: Can you argue, other than by the authority of Jesus, that fornication is wrong?

Who me? If so, No. Can you?

but I also wouldn't compare fornication with homosexuality. A gay couple is able to love each other and stay faithful to each other in a life lasting relationship. Unfortunately, in most areas of the world, gay marriage is not legalized. So therefore, by your definition, the a gay couple maybe fornicating. But a couple does not need a marriage in order to stay faithful and love one another. So I don't think putting homosexuality and fornication in the same group is that simple.

 

[djbcrawford]

The [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] is not "designed for reproduction." It has no role in reproduction at all. It just gives pleasure.

Does it give pleasure during sexual intercourse - yes. Is it part of the sexual genitalia - yes. The fact it can be stimulated separately is irrelevent. I believe it is designed, through the act of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], to push sperm deeper into the body which in turn helps with conception.

Sexual intimacy is to help bond two people together so they form a stable family unit to raise children (which needs a male and a female to create a child in the first place).

 

[djbcrawford]

So marriage and love is only about sex?

No, they are all supposed to be connected. If sex is the ultimate connection between two people, then wouldn't it go perfectly with love and marriage.

 

[djbcrawford]

Let me ask you one thing: Can you argue, other than by the authority of Jesus, that fornication is wrong?

Can you define fornication.

 

[RMDY]

Were these addressed to me?


If so: So you're saying there is no evidence outside the bible that homosexuality is wrong?

Who me? If so, No. Can you?

By the same authority of Jesus, I also believe pornia is a sin.

 

[RMDY]

Can you define fornication.

I thought you knew what fornication was.

 

[RMDY]

Hebrews 13:4


Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.

 

[djbcrawford]

I thought you knew what fornication was.

I presume we're talking about sex before marriage, but I wasn't sure from your original post whether you were making a point for or against fornication and before I replied, I wanted to clarify what was being debated.

However after reading some of your other posts, I think you were asking a retorical question rather than an actual one.

 

[GoldenRuleLove]

A lot of people defend their beliefs that homosexuality is wrong by quoting Leviticus 18:22 - "You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination".

...However, later (Leviticus 19:19) states that it is also wrong to wear "a garment made of two different materials".
I'm sure most of you dont consider wearing a shirt made of a cotton-poly blend to be a sin.

 

[Ohioprof]

God didn't create male and female so they could pervert themselves in homosexual passions and desires.

That's just your opinion. Same-sex relationships are not perversion. You continue to level judgments at others, on the basis of no knowledge of us at all.

 

[Ohioprof]

Exactly, we should follow the government that God set for us. Although a specific structure isn't necesserly identified. Do you need verses on anything else?

We don't follow a government that "God set for us." We follow a government of our own choosing. And we can change our government.

Heaven help us if you ever get to impose on everyone else a government that you believe "God set for us."

 

[Ohioprof]

That is your opinion. And I don't consider it to be fact. At all.

It depends which Christians you ask, my friend.

 

[Ohioprof]

God breaths his authority into the bible. Without it, I wouldn't know that fornicating and other things I believed to be moral were evil.

You don't know they are evil. You just believe they are, and then you attribute your beliefs to God.

 

[Ohioprof]

I believe pornia also referred to homosexuality during the days of Jesus. But many homosexuals don't accept this because they love their passion and desires and use their freedom to endulge in it.

Many homosexuals don't accept this because it's just your prejudice talking.

 

[CShephard53]

No, ohioprof, there's plenty of evidence for what was said. You're just not accepting of that evidence.

 

[RMDY]

A lot of people defend their beliefs that homosexuality is wrong by quoting Leviticus 18:22 - "You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination".

...However, later (Leviticus 19:19) states that it is also wrong to wear "a garment made of two different materials".
I'm sure most of you dont consider wearing a shirt made of a cotton-poly blend to be a sin.

Nonetheless, in Matthew Chapter 15, Jesus calls sexual immorality (pornia) something evil that originates within our hearts. Did you know fornication was evil? So is homosexuality and incest and beastiality.

 

[RMDY]

Many homosexuals don't accept this because it's just your prejudice talking.

You say I've thrown stones when I've condemned no one.

 

[RMDY]

You don't know they are evil. You just believe they are, and then you attribute your beliefs to God.

Jesus says sexual immorality is an evil thing which originates from the heart. What else can I say, that Jesus is wrong?