Ever consider what killing 40million of our people means-Pentecostal/Charismatic only

[SharonL]

In this nation alone 40 million babies have been killed through abortion - ever consider what this could mean.

For instance - take all the old people who are dieing alone - could they possibly have killed the person that God had to take care of them.

What about the cure for Aids, HIV, Cancer, etc - could the developer of the cure have been killed.

Between the baby boomers and the murdering of 40 million - we are going to be short for the number of people it takes to meet the Social Security quota - for example - use to take 10 - 12 people to meet the needs of one person - we now only have 2 - 3 to meet that need - soon it will be less than 2. Take 40 million people out of the quota - upsets the balance.

The mental anguish people go through for having killed their baby has added greatly to our mental problems.

This nation will not go unpunished for the killing of 40 million - we still have consequences that will be brought upon this nation for this awful killing.

I realize that God gives us free will and knows all things - but He has a plan for us, but does not make us robots to carry out the plan. So we mess it up.

I am hearing prophesies that God is going to double the anointing of children from ages 8 to 17 - wonderful things are prophesied for the youth of today to make up for the plan that was not carried out in all the killing of the babies.

The list goes on and on - any comments on this?

 

[heron]

Thanks for bringing it to mind.

 

[BenAdam]

For a very long time I have always associated abortion with the worship of Molech in the OT.

Briefly one version is that Molech was an empty (or hollow) brass statue in which a fire was stoked makeing it red hot. A child or baby was then placed in the statues outstreched red hot hands and scalded to death. (Many sources for this, you can try Wikipedia for one). Their child was sacrifice in order to have a better life.

Why do people abort? Almost always in order to improve their life or prevent their life from changing due to a child. It is totally self-centered and they never even try to deal with the repurcussions of the death, nor the potential of the child as you listed.

Abortion is horrible, it demeans life. The sad old arguments about rape and incest have zero moral bearing. The child is not at fault for the cause of the pregnancy. I know the life of the mother is usually thrown out there too but that is a decission to be made by family and physician at the appropriate time.

 

[psalms 91]

Yes I agree abortion is wrong and it is murder. It is one of the main reasons that this country will be judged

 

[hockeywifeca]

Abortion is murder...absolutely...but it is also victimizing women. They are led to believe, and they want to so it will be easier, that their unborn child is not a child at all. Let's not forget to pray for the women as well as the unborn children of the world.

 

[Akathist]

MOD HAT ON

I am here for a brief visit... no time for a long reminder....

However, I will close this thead down if the evidence rules of 4.2 are not followed.

Everyone who posts in this thread is required to read the "Required Reading" at the top of the Christian Philosophy and Ethics Forum and to follow all CF rules including evidence when posting about abortion.

 

[KingZzub]

Oh my God!

Abortion is in the 4.2

What ever next?

Homosexuality?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

replying to these in reverse order, last first.

...
For instance - take all the old people who are dieing alone - could they possibly have killed the person that God had to take care of them.

What about the cure for Aids, HIV, Cancer, etc - could the developer of the cure have been killed.
...
- any comments on this?

well, the good news is, the cure for aids,hiv,cancer etc took place long ago!
carey reams book(gogle for links) "the biological theory of ionization"
goes into greater detail of the known causes of disease(mineral deficiency!)
and how to test for what's unbalanced or missing and how to replace it in the body according to G_d's Plan. in almost 100 years carey reams has
never been proven wrong, and the drg lrds hate him! carey reams cured
9996 out of 10000 terminal cancer cases(diagnosed by other doctors first).

well, the bad news is, the cure is illegal in the united states. anyone who
has studied the drug culture in the united states already knows this, or had
a chance to know this. for example, ask any drg cartel why the cure for
leukemia insn't taught to dktrs in the usa(in france it was published 40 years ago in the medical lancet, don't know how to find the specific, but it's been on tv and in maureen s. book "answers to all your health questions")
every one of the drg reps said they won't tell dktrs the cure, nor let them
use it, because they can't patent vitamin a. (some drgs they use imitate
vitamin a, but they are patentable, thus for a 5 cent pill they can charge
1500 dollars)

p.s. the drg companies, especially in europe, use .......... in various
brands of skin lotion. you fill in the blank, it is too grusome to print.
they don't have to list the source anywhere, so you might be using it
without ever consciously knowing it (G_d will always warn you, but who listens?) and people thought hitler was mad for using martyrs skin to make lamp shades!

anyway, back to the 'good' news; the cure is already known. the gov. and the powers that are in place won't allow it. (they paid for my school
to learn their ways, which i didn't know ahead of time at all. no way i could stay in the field - no one who tells the truth is allowed to stay in -
period) but the cure is still widely available, for now. just don't expect
any official under the gov. control to help, medical or otherwise. you have
to search for yourself, like, say, at the library, book store, or gogle.
and remember the world's largest company has billions of dollars to lose, so
they have plenty of websites, articles, books and 'professionals' to distract
you from the truth. (like the one world church, they have already
convinced most people of a lie - that they care - and you won't be able to
change anyone else's mind who trusts them; so don't be surprised at the
opposition you receive from neighbors, 'friends' and even family: the truth
is not popular nor accepted by the worldlings, as Yeshua(Jesus) said "You
must be born again"[to see the kingdom of heaven] so also any truth.

oh yeah, i'm looking for a website that verifies that 1000 times as many
people are done in by the drg lrds than by all the terrorists combined. since
it is legal and 'accepted' in civilized society for a patient to have a bad
reaction to their 'medicine' (i guess death is a bad reaction), and the
prescriber and the maker and the distributor of said medicine is virtually
never liable for any prosecution, the reporting of the real cause of a bad
reaction is rare and sometimes hard to officially verify.

i guess most of the readers of this forum are against abortion, and some
percentage claim to be christian; how many christian are willing to obey
scripture and honor their mother and their father by taking care of them no
matter what it costs? and how many christian are raising their living children to honor G_d first and to keep His instructions for life ? ( a lot of
living children grown up now and going to 'church' have given up their
parents or been given up by them - go live alone, that's the american way!) That is not G_d's Way as far as I can tell reading His Book.


i.e. old people wouldn't be dying alone if any of the churches were doing
what the Creator says to do in His instructions, right? no matter if the rest of the world commits any manner of violation, if the church did what
G_d said, the elderly would be honored and respected, not ignored and
left alone 5 days a week. hey, same goes for the destitute! Wow, G_d
sure covered all the bases - when will we ever learn?

shalom to all who love truth.

 

[KellyLeigh]

GREAT post! So many people just push information like that out of their mind. It breaks my heart knowing that many abortions have taken place I can only imagine how much worse it will probably get....

 

[cruztacean]

Abortion is truly a tragedy. I know people who were adopted in an age before abortion became legal. They shudder to think that had they been conceived a couple of decades later, they might not exist.

It bothers me to hear the argument, "A woman has the right to do whatever she wants with her own body." I have several issues with this statement.

• Abortion is not the same as getting a tattoo or having a nose job. There is more than only the woman's own body to consider; another little body will be affected by the choice she makes.
• This completely discounts the father of the baby, who should have just as much right to determine his own child's fate. Years ago my own brother, for example, could not legally stop his girlfriend from aborting their child, even though he told her he wanted the child and would raise it if she didn't want to. He could do nothing but mourn the death of a child he wanted.
• By the above argument, drug abuse, prostitution, and suicide should be declared a person's individual right. After all, they are doing what they want to do with their own bodies... But those things hurt others, one may protest? As in the example with my brother, so does abortion.
• Why is it that a woman's right to choose doesn't seem to apply when it's a teenage girl who wants to keep the baby, but her parents or guardians, or even outsiders, pressure her into ending the pregnancy? If it's her right to choose, then she should be able to choose not to.

 

[prisonchaplain]

GREAT post! So many people just push information like that out of their mind. It breaks my heart knowing that many abortions have taken place I can only imagine how much worse it will probably get....

Perhaps with the new Supreme Court, we'll see continued restrictions, and a gradual reduction in locations where this "procedure" can be carried out. Perhaps God will even bring about an overturning of the notorious legislation by judges, known as Roe V. Wade. We can certainly pray to that end.

 

[joyfulnoise]

Did you know that scientists have discovered that within the first few weeks following conception, baby begins to protect itself on the placental side from a "killer t-cell" attack that moms body wages due to the fact that mom's body recognizes that baby has a dna makeup which is different from hers (just like in donated organ rejection)??? If baby is unsuccessful in fighting off this killer t-cell attack, a miscarriage occurs. They (the scientists & researchers) feel that many miscarriages occur because of this. You know what that tells me??? Baby is a separate person from mom from day one. It's not about mom's body... that argument falls flat. God knits each of us together in our mother's womb, we are all unique & precious in the site of God. I thank God every day for my daughter, who was concieved when I was 17 years old & far from God. As a 34 year old, I am grateful that God chose me to give her to. She's a tremendous blessing. I'll find the Christian magazine I read that report in & tell you where you can find the same info.

 

[cruztacean]

You tell a beautiful story.

Actually, I lost two nieces/nephews, too soon to tell which, to abortion. My brother's child, I mentioned in my previous post. My sister became pregnant at the age of 17 and was pressured relentlessly by certain family members into getting an abortion that she didn't want. That's why I brought up that last point, about pregnant teenage girls who want the baby, but all of a sudden "choice" doesn't apply to them.

I remember calling to check on my sister that day. Although I didn't get to talk to her, I was told "She's fine" in a very chipper, bright tone. Later she told me that she hadn't been "fine." It's just that no one was validating her feelings.

I too had become pregnant as a teenager (18 and unmarried), and I too was told I should have an abortion. Fortunately for me, I was living with the child's father, as opposed to still living at home. Therefore I didn't endure the same pressure my sister was to endure only three years later.

I once read a letter to the editor--come to think of it, this was in Pentecostal Evangel magazine--from a woman who didn't think churches should give baby showers for teenage unwed mothers. She said it sends them the wrong message. Don't sleep around, but if you do, we'll throw you a party. My reply wasn't published, as they probably get too many letters, but I disagreed entirely. A local church had given me a baby shower, even though I was a pregnant teenager living with, but not married to, the child's father. If they had merely judged me and turned me away as a sinner, I might not now be able to say I know the Lord--and so does the child I was carrying.

In tribute to my two lost nieces/nephews, I pray for our nation that the system that murdered them be overturned. I pray that judgment by Christians not play a role in causing the deaths of any more like them. For every teenage mother out there, I pray that someone will come along who wants to help, not to judge.

 

[gracee]

i still thank the Lord because abortion is illegal here in the Philippines. (but underground surgeons still do it )

and praise the Lord because abortion is illegal in some states of America.which means no abortion hospitals are allowed

Hallelujah!We always have a reason to praise God!

and we always also have a reason to pray!we have to pray for abortion to stop.we can pray about it.we can pray for God's mercy.we can start with our local communities.

prayer can turn things around.