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marooyce said:Well, I would understand this if there were some people about whom we know precisely that they are saved, how did they manage this, which were the circumstances that allowed them to aquire salvation.
But the only thing we know is that everybody is ******, starting with Adam and Eve, that's why I'm saying that this chapter is very important in our history.
Had they been different, we would all have been different now. Had there been an exception, then we'd have gotten a rule, a point of reference in the Universe. A precedent.
It's like you're buying a new car from the store, you're trying to drive it home, but the car breaks right there, in the middle of the road. And everybody shake their shoulder and only you are to be blamed. Because you drove it 1 km !! And you should have known not to touch a special button, present right there on the dashboard.
marooyce said:What ? You mean we are equal with Jesus Christ ?
This are your own words.Well, I would understand this if there were some people about whom we know precisely that they are saved, how did they manage this, which were the circumstances that allowed them to aquire salvation.
We do know, Jesus Christ.
marooyce said:This are your own words.
Of course we know. He tells us:Shelb5 said:We have no clue as to why he creates those he knows will be ******
Their sin judges them? Sin is not a judge. It's a transgression of God's Law. God is The Judge. They may be ****** because of their sins but God is most certainly the one that judges them worthy of eternal damnation.but he is not the one to damns them, their sin damns them.
You're speaking in circles. Either He saved them, and they're saved, or He didn't, and they aren't. It's illogical to say that He saved them but they end up ******. If they end up ****** then He didn't save them.He saved them but they choose not to accept that, that is why they are ******.
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