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"Theology can never be definitive, for it is always a contemporary exposition of the definitive biblical word."
Theology arose to combat erronenous teachings.
No need. I know what you think. That's why you took a pot-shot at protestants. There is another current EO thread questioning when Rome and if Rome will be accepted into what they believe is the True Church. That game never ends, if you believe that one body contains the True Church. I dont.I'm sure there is huge disagreement about this point. Please start a separate thread if you want to argue about whether the Catholic church is the one Jesus founded. Karl Barth isn't a Catholic theologian, so arguing about the Catholic church isn't going to help the OP answer her question.
It is really sad. But Jesus and his closest followers and John the Baptist and Saul/Paul--none got a NT seminary degree, so you are in good company!I quit Bible college over that. First I endure 2 hours of questioning Luke's authorship of Luke and Acts. Then I have to sit for another two hours on the contradiction between seperate accounts of Judas hanging himself. That as well as the fact that textual criticism had to be in every paper, biblical references were discouraged because parentheses should be reserved for scholarly works citations. As I started the theology part I encount Tillich who was obviously an atheist and everywhere you encountered emerging church theology. Our Bible colleges have gone to seed. Second and third generation academics who train for ministry have sold out to liberal theology.
And thus a conflict over whose theology would win out while others simply lived according to God's will as commanded, not man's.
It is really sad. But Jesus and his closest followers and John the Baptist and Saul/Paul--none got a NT seminary degree, so you are in good company!
It is really sad. But Jesus and his closest followers and John the Baptist and Saul/Paul--none got a NT seminary degree, so you are in good company!
Just to be clear then, are you saying all theology only an expression of man's will and thoughts? Not saying I totally disagree, as you might have a point in regard to some theologies.
Do you actually know what I think? Did you look at my denominational affiliation in my profile?No need. I know what you think. That's why you took a pot-shot at protestants.
I took a pot-shot at the notion of arguing for the bazillionth time about which church (if any) is the one True Church, in a thread that's supposed to be about helping a student get through her theology coursework.
I guess the simplest way to clear it is for me to say theology is based either from the viewpoint of the will of man or the viewpoint of the will of God. Both exist within Christianity as Christianity has not only served the will of God, but more so the traditional will of man which existed prior.
There is no visible church that is "the True Church". There are just many who think they are. Though you will hear people tell you theirs is. That doesn't make them right.Do you actually know what I think? Did you look at my denominational affiliation in my profile?
I didn't take a pot-shot at Protestants. I took a pot-shot at the notion of arguing for the bazillionth time about which church (if any) is the one True Church, in a thread that's supposed to be about helping a student get through her theology coursework.
So which theologies, in your view are based in and serve the will of God?
The Kingdom of God is not a physical kingdom but a spiritual one. Does anyone believe that God is really concerned with that which is destined to be destroyed? The Lord Jesus used physical things to illustrate spiritual realities.
The Lord told Pilate that His kingdom was not of this world.
There is no visible church that is "the True Church". There are just many who think they are. Though you will hear people tell you theirs is. That doesn't make them right.
I'd be curious to hear more about your experience of Bible college (and to hear more from @VhiaLemon , if you're still around). I would expect to see the elements you've mentioned at a mainline-to-liberal place like Yale or Harvard, and to a lesser degree at an Evangelical college or seminary, but my image of Bible colleges was that they were much more conservative than that, not bringing in modern theology or higher criticism. Is my image of Bible colleges wrong? What was the curriculum like at your school?I quit Bible college over that. First I endure 2 hours of questioning Luke's authorship of Luke and Acts. Then I have to sit for another two hours on the contradiction between seperate accounts of Judas hanging himself. That as well as the fact that textual criticism had to be in every paper, biblical references were discouraged because parentheses should be reserved for scholarly works citations. As I started the theology part I encount Tillich who was obviously an atheist and everywhere you encountered emerging church theology. Our Bible colleges have gone to seed. Second and third generation academics who train for ministry have sold out to liberal theology.
Much of it was very good, some of the expositional studies were well crafted and the emphasis was on Pastoral ministry. Many of the Nazarene Bible colleges have turned into liberal arts programs, same could be said of mainstream Wesleyan colleges and seminaries. My Old Testament studies were fascinating, I learned a ton of things as a result of studies in the historical books and eight century prophets. The Nazarenes are tender hearted and sincere, I never got a lot of flack for being Calvinist. I just couldn't stand the Liberal theology that had made it's way into the curriculum, I started feeling claustrophobic and suffocated. I never took the final for Acts, which was the class that set me off. I never said anything to them because I didn't have the heart, I have no desire to be divisive or contentious.I'd be curious to hear more about your experience of Bible college (and to hear more from @VhiaLemon , if you're still around). I would expect to see the elements you've mentioned at a mainline-to-liberal place like Yale or Harvard, and to a lesser degree at an Evangelical college or seminary, but my image of Bible colleges was that they were much more conservative than that, not bringing in modern theology or higher criticism. Is my image of Bible colleges wrong? What was the curriculum like at your school?
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