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Europe a Goner???

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Carey

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Hey everybody.

Christians are going to have to rise up and be heard.
The beast of revelations could very well be controlled by Islam.

Someday soon, you might wake up to the call to prayer from a Muslim muezzin. Millions of Europeans already do.
And liberals will still tell you that "diversity is our strength" -- while Talibanic enforcers cruise our cities burning books and barber shops... the Supreme Court decides sharia law doesn't violate the "separation of church and state" ... and the Hollywood Left gives up gay rights in favor of the much safer charms of polygamy.
If you think this can't happen, you haven't been paying attention, Thsi book is written by a super well known columist. and is a best seller.
Its called Ameica alone...the end of the world as we know it.

The future belongs to the offspring prudcing and the confident. Islamists are both, while the West -- wedded to a multiculturalism that undercuts its own confidence, a welfare state that nudges it toward sloth and self-indulgence, and a childlessness that consigns it to oblivion -- is looking ever more like the ruins of a civilization."
Europe is almost certainly a goner. The future, if the West has one, belongs to America alone-with maybe its cousins in brave Australia. But America can still survive, prosper, and defend its freedom only if it continues to believe in itself, in the sturdier virtues of self-reliance (not government), in the centrality of family, and in the conviction that our country really is the world's last best hope.
Its a laugh-out-loud funny book . And thought provoking.
 

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Here's a few more.

Antichrist: Islam's Awaited Messiah by Joel Richardson
http://www.amazon.com/Antichrist-Aw..._bbs_sr_1/002-1047005-4307266?ie=UTF8&s=books

From 9/11 to 666 by Ralph W. Stice
http://www.amazon.com/11-666-Ralph-...ef=sr_1_1/002-1047005-4307266?ie=UTF8&s=books

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West (2005here are several links,because for some curious reason they always seem to be 'de-commissioned'!

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/
http://obsessionthemovie.com/index.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5862460287603221198
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6331994107023396223&hl=en

Londonistan by Melanie Phillips (the name given to London by Europe,find out why)
http://www.amazon.com/Londonistan-M...44/ref=pd_sim_b_3/002-1047005-4307266?ie=UTF8
 
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[Carey]Hey everybody.

Christians are going to have to rise up and be heard.
The beast of revelations could very well be controlled by Islam.

Someday soon, you might wake up to the call to prayer from a Muslim muezzin. Millions of Europeans already do.
And liberals will still tell you that "diversity is our strength" -- while Talibanic enforcers cruise our cities burning books and barber shops... the Supreme Court decides sharia law doesn't violate the "separation of church and state" ... and the Hollywood Left gives up gay rights in favor of the much safer charms of polygamy.
If you think this can't happen, you haven't been paying attention, Thsi book is written by a super well known columist. and is a best seller.
Its called Ameica alone...the end of the world as we know it.

The future belongs to the offspring prudcing and the confident. Islamists are both, while the West -- wedded to a multiculturalism that undercuts its own confidence, a welfare state that nudges it toward sloth and self-indulgence, and a childlessness that consigns it to oblivion -- is looking ever more like the ruins of a civilization."
Europe is almost certainly a goner. The future, if the West has one, belongs to America alone-with maybe its cousins in brave Australia. But America can still survive, prosper, and defend its freedom only if it continues to believe in itself, in the sturdier virtues of self-reliance (not government), in the centrality of family, and in the conviction that our country really is the world's last best hope.
Its a laugh-out-loud funny book . And thought provoking.

This deserves both a :sleep: and a definite :D

 
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UHm, not to sound a left-winged nut-head diluted Christian, but what exactly does this matter any?

The world's going to Hell; literally; and Christianity is falling out of sight.

!!SHOCKER!!

Honestly, EACH AND EVERY nation is going to fall sooner or later, so why are we going to start calling out other people's beliefs as the "Root Causes"?

Honestly, if I was a Muslim and browsed this post, I sure as hell would probably be cured of any desire to listen nonetheless consider ANY Christian ideology.

I would say, if we are so worried about ideologies overtaking us, we should stop because I THINK God is not exactly going to just let His words be totally extinguished for whatever reason. Being God, i think He can do that if He wants to. Secondly, ideas are bulletproof; so it's idoitic to play the same "us vs. them" battle ad nasuem. Unless of course, you enjoy wasting energy and ammunition.

If we ignore the fact it is PEOPLE following these ideals, we quantify other living and breathing people's into souls to be saved. That, I would say is a terribly toxic mindset.

Further I could see the desire to stop radical Islam, but it's not like we don't have that. From Skinheads training to "Fight in the upcoming war" to people who bomb abortion clinics, it's not like Islam is some terrorist-centeric religion. There are extremist groups in all ideologies.

If we cannot see the HUMAN BEINGS removed from the beliefs, the THINKING human beings with thoghts and opinions just like us, then of course we'll become overrun.

Furthe,r exactly what is proposed we do other than start scaring people and inciting them against more groups, causing the "Loving Followers of Christ" to look even less like their whole idea?
 
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I think this should answer everyones responses.

I think we Christians should speak out about whats happenened already to the continent of Africa.

Whats happened to the middle east.

What is happening to europe.

And what will eventually happen to the whole eart and last for 1260 days accoring to Revelations. 12 : 6The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

17Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring—those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus
( USING ISLAM to make war on Gods people ?? )

The time is very near this is the Gospel " GOOD NEWS "
 
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Sorry - still don't get what you are on about?!

As far as I see where Africa is concerned, it's in a time of considerable christian revival.

And again I ask - what is 'happening' to Europe that isn't happening to the USA?

Jarvo

p.s. would appreciate a bit more of an explicit answer this time.
 
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In Austalia we have Mosques and Miracles its a thingey to help convert Moslims to Christianity, but its also going to NZ and they (Moslims) are getting upset about it. But its about evangelism, not putting Moslims down, but they are taking evangelical groups that way. Australia and NZ are starting to evangelize these groups here with this program. I dont' have a link but you can check it out on the islamophobia site (just google something similar I don't know its name), because that's where they think it is a bad thing.
 
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In Austalia we have Mosques and Miracles its a thingey to help convert Moslims to Christianity, but its also going to NZ and they (Moslims) are getting upset about it. But its about evangelism, not putting Moslims down, but they are taking evangelical groups that way. Australia and NZ are starting to evangelize these groups here with this program. I dont' have a link but you can check it out on the islamophobia site (just google something similar I don't know its name), because that's where they think it is a bad thing.


Would that be the 'infamous' - Internet Infidels, forum? That so many Muslim Apologetics are members of. :sick: :sick:
 
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Got a bit confused here with the OP.

Why is Europe going to 'fall' and not the USA?

And what about the continent of Africa?

Jarvo


Africa already fell.

Europe will fall next.

Eventually the uSA and the whole world will fall to the anti christ and the beast of revelation and will be under the beasts control for 1260 days.
 
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Sorry - still don't get what you are on about?!

As far as I see where Africa is concerned, it's in a time of considerable christian revival.

And again I ask - what is 'happening' to Europe that isn't happening to the USA?

Jarvo

p.s. would appreciate a bit more of an explicit answer this time.

The muslims here have not been able to get companies and the Governement to restrict any Christian symbols or evangelistic works as they have in euroope.

The continenet of Africa has never really been Christian so any Christian activity would not be Christian revival but Christian birth.
Africa still has slavery it started in Africa and has never stopped existing in Afraica. The muslim warlords regulary torcher , kill and enslave Christians all over Africa.
South Africa for a time was somehwhat a civilized Christian country but now has reverted to almost third world status.
 
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Sorry, but I think you are much mistaken about the take over of Europe by Islam. Would you like to also give me evidence of the fact that Slavery started in Africa? As far as I can see, the southern/central part of Africa is bursting with Christian activity, especially in places like Mozambique, Tanzania and surrounding countries.

And the fact that Christians are being persecuted in Africa is surely a sign that Christianity is having an effect there. The faith that many Africans have, and the number of miracles that are happening in Africa I think show that Africa is blessed in many ways. And I would disagree that South Africa is in 3rd world status - although this has absolutely no relevance to how Christian it is.

Now i'm not saying that most European citizens are really practising Christians, but I would also argue that many Americans who claim to be Christians, go along to church etc, are also not truely following Christ. [Please note i'm not making any personal judgements, just an overall assessment of the situation as I see it]

Jarvo
 
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