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Just for curiosity, what do you consider to be ethically wrongful in all cases (a.k.a. "always wrong to do")?

Be malicious.

Right and wrong are not questions of abstract gerunds you could ascribe to robots; they are questions of our relation to others. When we fail to love, we are wrong; when we love, we are right.

It is important to distinguish between "wrong" and "harmful", as an action may be either, neither, or both. It is also important to understand that sometimes behavior, while ethically correct, is irrational and inconsistent with someone's ethically correct goals.
 
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Rape and child molestation.

I can't think of anything else that I consider wrong in all cases at the moment.

The latter needs to be clarified a bit. My great grandmother was married at 15 to a man many years her senior. Some might consider this child molestation.
 
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The latter needs to be clarified a bit. My great grandmother was married at 15 to a man many years her senior. Some might consider this child molestation.

Hmm, you might have a point there. I was thinking of younger children, perhaps below the age of 12; but then, I don't really agree with the logic that something is completely morally wrong one day, but as soon as they turn 13, it's ok. It's a much more difficult issue than I first thought.
 
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The word "Ethics" stems from a Greek word that is translated, not to bury, conceal, hide, or cover up.

So if you conceal mistakes, like at work, or hide something you have done wrong it is unethical.

If you plan to do anything and then cover it up that would be the clue it is unethical.

Morals is different.

It comes from the Latin Mores.

Mores basically means to imitate as in custom.

So if you ask yourself what it means to be a moral (imitate) nazi you get the picture what that means.

Hope this helps. It is unethical to conceal. Like when Caine killed his brother and did not answer for it.
 
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Murder, stealing, cheating, and Rape. There might be a few others, but I can't think of them at this moment.

I think the question calls for being a little more specific.

for example, murder is a legal term that tells us whether a particular act of killing is determined by a court to be against the law. An act of killing might be declared by a court to have been murder, but others might think it was a justified case of killing in self defense and therefore not "wrong". And plenty of acts of killing that many would consider unjustified *aren't* considered by courts to be murder, such as abortion, capital punishment, and killing during an act of war.

And as for stealing...a lot of people might say that a starving man who steals a hot dog to feed his starving children has done no wrong.

(Not saying I necessarily disagree with you, just that I think you're being more vague than the question warrants)
 
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Just for curiosity, what do you consider to be ethically wrongful in all cases (a.k.a. "always wrong to do")?

Enslavement.


eudaimonia,

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Agree with you there.

If ethical means not to bury, conceal, hide, or cover up... it is worth pointing out that the actual legalization of abortion stems from the sages in the Supreme Court interpreting a privacy right (that does not exist) into the Bill of Rights.
 
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I think the question calls for being a little more specific.

for example, murder is a legal term that tells us whether a particular act of killing is determined by a court to be against the law. An act of killing might be declared by a court to have been murder, but others might think it was a justified case of killing in self defense and therefore not "wrong". And plenty of acts of killing that many would consider unjustified *aren't* considered by courts to be murder, such as abortion, capital punishment, and killing during an act of war.

And as for stealing...a lot of people might say that a starving man who steals a hot dog to feed his starving children has done no wrong.

(Not saying I necessarily disagree with you, just that I think you're being more vague than the question warrants)
"murder is a legal term"

De facto... is a term used to denote "outside the law". In the case of our redicules laws, it has greater meaning... "common sense". As in "murder de facto".

A couple examples:

Abortion is murder de facto.
Holocaust is murder de facto.
 
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Ethically wrong in all cases
Child abuse... paedophilia, or any form of cruelty... that is, any form of activity where the intention is to cause harm to another creature, without any uintention of bettering either that creature, or the general community's wellbeing... i.e. veterinary surgery, or animal experimentation are defensible, setting the neighbour's cat on fire for fun, isn't
 
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Abortion is murder de facto.
No its not. de facto indicates a presumption of legal standing... i.e. de facto marriage is seen in the eyes of the law, as marriage. Abortion is, by defintion, legal, and cannot therefore be a de facto crime
 
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No its not. de facto indicates a presumption of legal standing... i.e. de facto marriage is seen in the eyes of the law, as marriage. Abortion is, by defintion, legal, and cannot therefore be a de facto crime
That is what they argued during the Nuremburg trials, just before they were found guilty and lynched.
 
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