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Eternal Justification !

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Another reason for eternal justification of Gods elect is that before the world began, according to their being chosen in Christ, they were blessed [in Him] with all spiritual blessings, and justification is a spiritual blessing. Eph 1:3-4

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world,
that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
 
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Another reason for eternal justification of Gods elect, which is connected to His Suretyship, and that is the non imputation of sin.
God purposed not to punish sin in His Elect but in His Son, the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world Rev 13:8. His counsel to punish sin in His Son, who became sin for us, includes also His will to impute sin to Him. Uniformly, the Father’s purpose not to punish sin in His elect includes His will not to impute it to them, and is their justification from all sin in His sight 2 Cor 5:19
 
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Imputation is satisfactory for the justification of God’s elect. Again in connection with Christs Suretyship undertaking that commenced from everlasting, the sins of His people were charged or imputed to Him. When He came the first time, He came with sin imputed to Him versus when He comes the second time its without sin, meaning without sin imputed to Him Heb 9:28

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

The first time He appeared sin was imputed to Him because He came to be a sacrifice Heb 10:5-10

5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

So with the sins of Gods elect already imputed to Christ even when He came into the world the first time as Surety, then they, by this imputation of sin to Christ, meant their Justification before God from them.1
 
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Another reason for eternal justification of Gods elect, is because its apparent Justification took place before the Cross of the OT Believers. Abraham was Justified before God based upon imputed righteousness before Christ came and died in time Rom 4:1-5

What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness/Justification.

4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

The righteousness in Vs 3 is Christs righteousness 1 Cor 1:30

30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

Worked out by His Obedience and fulfillment of the Law for Abraham Rom 10:4

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one[to include Abraham] that believeth.
 
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Another reason for eternal justification of Gods elect is because:

Justified while ungodly

The elect are justified whilst ungodly Romans 4:5

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

which means before believing/Faith. Justification then, does not depend upon a sinner’s obedience or personal faith. But instead a sinner is justified upon the basis of the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ, which is eternal, and its imputation in the established purpose of God.
 
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Another reason for eternal justification of Gods elect is because: The essence of justification. Its freely done by grace Rom 3:24

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Such Grace was given the elect in Christ before the world began 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Christ had been slain in the eternal purpose of God from the foudation Rev 13:8

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 2
 
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Another reason for eternal justification of Gods elect is because: Justification apart from faith
Justification before God does not depend on the apparatus of faith: For instance the elect who die in infancy have not exercised faith or fulfilled the act of believing, yet they are justified Rom 8:33. Gods sovereign grace is the decisive cause of justification, not the faith of those justified. This grace was given Gods elect in Christ their mediator/surety before the world began 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

And the elect are Justified by that grace Rom 3:24


24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
 
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Another reason for eternal justification of Gods elect is because :

Faith emanates from justification. God gives Faith to a person because they have been made/declared righteous, so we have the Divine Promise that the Just or Justified shall live by Faith Rom 1:17

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

The just are made so by the obedience of Christ Rom 5:19

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For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 2
 
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Another reason for eternal justification is because where we are accepted, we are Justified, and the elect were accepted in Christ the beloved, according to having been chosen in Him before the foundation of the world Eph 1:3-6

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Notice this being accepted in the beloved is to the praise of the Glory of His Grace ! Which Grace was given to the Elect in Christ before the foundation of the world 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,3
 
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The Scriptural Logical case for Eternal Justification

Justification being an act of God, in his eternal counsel and purpose, before the world began; Rom.8:29,30,33
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

The Eternal God doesnt Justify on reasons outside of Himself and His Eternal Purpose in Christ Eph 3:11

11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:4
 
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Its reasonable to conclude that the elect have been Justified from everlasting from their sins before God, if He was setup as their Surety from everlasting, if that was the case, their sins were then laid upon Him. We believe that a everlasting covenant did exist in the Godhead because of scriptures like Heb 13:20

20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

The old patriarch David said 2 Sam 23:5



Although my house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.

This covenant was shewed to David Ps 25:14

The secret of the Lord is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
 
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The elect of God are eternally Justified before God because of their acceptance by Him, having been chosen in Him before the foundation of the world. Eph 1:4-6

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

This word accepted is the greek word charitoó:

to make graceful, endow with grace I favor, bestow freely on.

Its the very same word used when the Holy Spirit inspired Luke to write of mary Lk 1:28

28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Hence due to their election in Christ, they are in a highly favoured Justified state with God, and this according as He chose them in Christ before the foundation of the world.
 
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Misinformation. . .

Where does Calvin present salvation occuring before belief in the realm of time?

In the realm of time, it is new birth by sovereign (dependent on nothing) act of the Holy Spirit, belief, salvation, justification, sanctification.
Salvation is given to sinners who first turn to Jesus in repentance seeking forgiveness for their sins.
 
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Its reasonable to conclude that the elect have been Justified from everlasting from their sins before God, if He was setup as their Surety from everlasting, if that was the case, their sins were then laid upon Him. We believe that a everlasting covenant did exist in the Godhead because of scriptures like Heb 13:20

20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

The old patriarch David said 2 Sam 23:5



Although my house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.

This covenant was shewed to David Ps 25:14

The secret of the Lord is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
God desires that all men would be saved and turn to Jesus for forgiveness.
 
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Salvation is given to sinners who first turn to Jesus in repentance seeking forgiveness for their sins.
And no one can turn to Jesus in repentance apart from the new birth, because one cannot even see the kingdom of God until one is reborn (Jn 3:3-5).
That cannot happen before the new birth of the Holy Spirit, because apart from the Holy Spirit, man does not accept the things that come from the Holy Spirit, they are foolishness to him (1 Co 1:18) and he cannot understand them (1 Co 2:14).
 
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And no one can turn to Jesus in repentance apart from the new birth, because one cannot even see the kingdom of God until one is reborn (Jn 3:3-5).
That cannot happen before the new birth of the Holy Spirit, because apart from the Holy Spirit, man does not accept the things that come from the Holy Spirit, they are foolishness to him (1 Co 1:18) and he cannot understand them (1 Co 2:14).
I believe sinners hear the word of God first and believe the word they hear before they are given the Holy Spirit of a new birth.

Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
 
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I believe sinners hear the word of God first and believe the word they hear before they are given the Holy Spirit of a new birth.

Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
The new birth results in faith, but one is not sealed until they come to saving faith.
 
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Abraham believed God and because of that evidence God counted his faith for righteousness.
Because of that faith, God counted/credited (imputed) it to him as righteousness (Ge 15:6, Ro 4:1-3), which imputed righteousness is justification (Ro 4:25, 5:18).
 
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