The body of Christ has been plagued by false doctrine since it's inception.
It's a long and winding road
As the Beatles, and The LORD God Almighty would have it.
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More back and forth on the subject...
You thinkin' Eph1:4? Election being determined before creation?DD2008, any thoughts on justification from eternity?
Being Protestant allows me to appreciate truth for what it is instead of who claims to own it.
Thank you, but be cautious.
I don't believe in free will, but I accept free will donations.
I was about to respond to a post until I saw that the post was from 2006 lol.
Dr. Gill, diligently studying these doctrines, said that adoption was the act of God in eternity, and that as all believers were elect in eternity, so beyond a doubt they were adopted in eternity. He went further than that to include the doctrine of justification and he said that inasmuch as Jesus Christ was before all worlds justified by his Father, and accepted by him as our representative, therefore all the elect must have been justified in Christ from before all worlds
So then we agree? I believe we are justified by the imputed righteousness of Christ and that that justification is made ours in expeience by faith.
Dr. Gill, diligently studying these doctrines, said that adoption was the act of God in eternity, and that as all believers were elect in eternity, so beyond a doubt they were adopted in eternity.
I have nothing to say about your lack of comment.
If a King gives a condemned man a pardon but the pardon doesn't reach the condemned man for a few days, or even months, when does the pardon actually take place? Does the pardon depend on the decree from the King to pardon or the condemned man's apprehension of it? Just a thought
"There is no succession in the knowledge of God. The variety of successions and changes in the world make not succession, or new objects in the Divine mind; for all things are present to him from eternity in regard of his knowledge, though they are not actually present in the world, in regard of their existence. He doth not know one thing now, and another anon; he sees all things at once; "Known unto God are all things from the beginning of the world" (Acts 15:18); but in their true order of succession, as they lie in the eternal council of God, to be brought forth in time. Though there be a succession and order of things as they are wrought, there is yet no succession in God in regard of his knowledge of them. God knows the things that shall be wrought, and the order of them in their being brought upon the stage of the world; yet both the things and the order he knows by one act. Though all things be present with God, yet they are present to him in the order of their appearance in the world, and not so present with him as if they should be wrought at once. The death of Christ was to precede his resurrection in order of time; there is a succession in this; both at once are known by God; yet the act of his knowledge is not exercised about Christ as dying and rising at the same time; so that there is succession in things when there is no succession in God's knowledge of them. Since God knows time, he knows all things as they are in time; he doth not know all things to be at once, though he knows at once what is, has been, and will be. All things are past, present, and to come, in regard of their existence; but there is not past, present, and to come, in regard of God's knowledge of them, because he sees and knows not by any other, but by himself; he is his own light by which he sees, his own glass wherein he sees; beholding himself, he beholds all things."Stephen Charnock
Well, I have found this interpretation by Spurgeon so I'll just have to give this more thought as this appears to be a likely view. More thought needed here for sure.
http://www.soundofgrace.com/v6n4/chsetrnlju.htm
"while I find the majority of sound divines holding that the works of justification and adoption are due in our lives "
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