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well i guess my first reaction was WHAT!?!
Then I read the thread through and it is still WHAT!?!
I understand some people's feelings toward's them and what they symbolize but Jesus is God and they just don't symbolize God or do Him reverence. We are not on the same level and that is what those figurines essentially say. IMHO
In Christ
Debi
Then I read the thread through and it is still WHAT!?!
I understand some people's feelings toward's them and what they symbolize but Jesus is God and they just don't symbolize God or do Him reverence. We are not on the same level and that is what those figurines essentially say. IMHO
In Christ
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My sentiments exactly.debiwebi said:
I think the statues are terrible and especially distasteful.
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In theory, I wouldn't think there's anything terribly wrong with them, but these kind of give me the willies. Gotta trust the gut instinct. However, I don't find these figurines any more offensive than I would, say, the Jesus action figure. Utterly tasteless, but relatively harmless.
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Tasteless? I agree.Matrona said:
Harmless? I disagree. If these sorts of things mask Jesus' divinity (an action figure? Oy!) then I think they would indeed be harmful. For instance, just look at icons written of Jesus Christ. They take great care to emphasize not only His humanity, but also His divinity. These sorts of statues, IMO, de-emphasize His divinity, intentional or not.
Then again, perhaps I'm an alarmist.
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NO I wouldn't say so and i would agree completely. Like I said before in taking away His Divinity we essentially make Him the same as us and He is not He is God. To encourage people to relate to Him in this way I think encourages them to have less respect for who He truly is and everything that He represents.nyj said:
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Personally, I think they're silly. I understand what they're trying to convey, but there are better ways to get the point across, I think.
A couple of similar statues, but much less silly, and which conveyed the same type of message much more effectively, were a two I saw in a catalogue once; one showed a little boy with his leg in a cast and a pair of crutches...Jesus was standing behind him with a steadying hand on his shoulder, making sure the kid didn't fall. The other one, which was much more touching, to me at least, showed a little boy kneeling near a gravestone marked "Spotty"; there was a dog dish and a chew bone nearby. The little boy was crying, and Jesus was kneeling beside him with His arms around him.
If the idea is to convey that Jesus is your Friend and that He's there for you, those two do a much better job of doing it respectfully than the sports statues, in my humble opinion.
A couple of similar statues, but much less silly, and which conveyed the same type of message much more effectively, were a two I saw in a catalogue once; one showed a little boy with his leg in a cast and a pair of crutches...Jesus was standing behind him with a steadying hand on his shoulder, making sure the kid didn't fall. The other one, which was much more touching, to me at least, showed a little boy kneeling near a gravestone marked "Spotty"; there was a dog dish and a chew bone nearby. The little boy was crying, and Jesus was kneeling beside him with His arms around him.
If the idea is to convey that Jesus is your Friend and that He's there for you, those two do a much better job of doing it respectfully than the sports statues, in my humble opinion.
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Sometime we need to take ourselves a little less serious. I think they are cool. They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I guess so is irreverence.
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I do take myself less seriously I just don't take God less seriously nor would I ever. but that is just me of course.Cathologetics said:
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You and me are never gonna agree on anything else dude, so remember this post well;
The very last thing American Catholicism need to be doing is embracing this new-right, born again, kischy, schmaltsy, just-plain-weird modern interpretive "Jesus art".
Its really, um, head, um... (oh, insert your own adjective)
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If you think those are bad ...
www.huggyjesus.com
Also, have a look at the list of "Playful Saint Dolls" you can get over at www.catholicchild.com. Type the word doll in the "search by keyword" field and click "go". No pictures though.
John.
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Also, have a look at the list of "Playful Saint Dolls" you can get over at www.catholicchild.com. Type the word doll in the "search by keyword" field and click "go". No pictures though.
John.
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Whoa - there's something scarily Scottish about that HuggyJesus
Could be the ginger hair
Could be the St. Andrew cross plastered on his chest
Could be the ginger hair
Could be the St. Andrew cross plastered on his chest
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Yours is cute, the other one is a little scary looking, and Jesus looks like a homeless man.
I wouldn't mind getting one like the one you have for my young daughter.
Yours is cute, the other one is a little scary looking, and Jesus looks like a homeless man.
I wouldn't mind getting one like the one you have for my young daughter.
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