ERASING CHRISTIANITY...

[Buck72]

Given the latest trend in America of replacing traditional Judeo-Christian values with that which is wholly demented and evil, I felt that this article sums it up rather well. Due to copyright rules, I can only post the first two paragraphs, please use the link for the complete article.

ERASING CHRISTIANITY
By Judson Cox
Dec 23, 2003, 00:45



U.S. District Judge Phyllis Hamilton has ruled that the ByronUnionSchool district was not indoctrinating students by requiring them to wear Islamic garb, memorize verses from the Koran, pray to Allah and play "jihad games" as part of a simulation approach to Islamic studies. The curriculum required by the California State Board of Education utilizes the textbook "Across the Centuries," published by Houghton Mifflin, which prompts students to imagine they are Islamic soldiers and Muslims on a Mecca pilgrimage. The students are encouraged to use phrases such as "Allah Akbar," (“Allah is great,") and are required to fast during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

It is remarkable that our schools would teach such a course when America is fighting a war against Islamic terror and thousands of Americans lay dead at the hands of Islamic fascists. The doctrine of diversity trumps both reason and taste. Islam may be a “religion of peace”, with highly nuanced interpretations of the Koranic commands to kill Jews and Christians, but if Muslim scholars can’t teach such nuances, should we rely on public school teachers? In the name of religious and cultural sensitivity, schools are forcing Christian and Jewish children to commit blasphemy. One cannot expect public school teachers to understand such a concept, when the Ten Commandments (“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”) are banned from public schools. To guard against offense and indoctrination, public religious education should be comparative in nature.


See full article at http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_2059.shtml

 

[watt]

It is remarkable that our schools would teach such a course when America is fighting a war against Islamic terror and thousands of Americans lay dead at the hands of Islamic fascists. The doctrine of diversity trumps both reason and taste. Islam may be a “religion of peace”, with highly nuanced interpretations of the Koranic commands to kill Jews and Christians, but if Muslim scholars can’t teach such nuances, should we rely on public school teachers? In the name of religious and cultural sensitivity, schools are forcing Christian and Jewish children to commit blasphemy. One cannot expect public school teachers to understand such a concept, when the Ten Commandments (“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”) are banned from public schools. To guard against offense and indoctrination, public religious education should be comparative in nature.


and this my friend is why they hate us

 

[Bushido216]

Wow.

Leave it to California.

 

[revolutio]

I have said it before and I shall say it again with a word added for emphasis.

There is a dire need for a banging-head-against-wall smiley.

 

[Philosoft]

"Jihad games"? Yeah, no reason to question the accuracy of that article. No sir.

 

[Sharky]

I have said it before and I shall say it again with a word added for emphasis.

There is a dire need for a banging-head-against-wall smiley.

Hahaha! I'm with you bro.

 

[tulc]

 

[Buck72]

Tulc, that is the best 'smilie' I have ever seen. I love it!!

 

[Ikaria]

That's goin in my signature!

 

[tulc]

well I'm hoping I didn't infringe some copyright, I found it on a site, put it up and now I'm feeling a little nervous about it. It is cool though!
tulc

 

[Ikaria]

Ah, signatures don't allow image links, so I can't use it after all...

 

[Ampmonster]

''My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism.''
karl marx and the modern liberal

 

[Ikaria]

''My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism.''

karl marx and the modern liberal

I've read that quote by Marx, but I've never heard a liberal say it.

 

[Ampmonster]

cmon look at the ACLU for 2 seconds and ask yourself if they hate God.

 

[Ampmonster]

i made up the fact that its a DIRECT liberal quote but it cetainly seems to apply to many.

 

[Ikaria]

cmon look at the ACLU for 2 seconds and ask yourself if they hate God.

OK, let's take a look...

ACLU Defends Church's Right to Run "Anti-Santa" Ads in Boston Subways

BOSTON--The American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts and a local attorney today filed a First Amendment lawsuit against the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA) for removing subway advertisements promoting the views of a local church and refusing to sell additional advertising space to the church.

One of the controversial ads, paid for by The Church of the Good News, said that early Christians did not celebrate Christmas or “believe in lies about Santa Claus, flying reindeer, elves and drunken parties.”

A second ad, which was rejected by the transit authority and never posted, said, “There is only one true religion. All the rest are false.”

“The transit authority has lost at least three other cases involving its refusal to display various ads because of their content or viewpoint,” said John Reinstein, Legal Director of the ACLU of Massachusetts.

“We are confident that the court will preserve the principles of religious liberty and free speech and rule in favor of our client.”

http://archive.aclu.org/news/2002/n010802a.html

ACLU Supports Right of Iowa Students to Distribute Christian Literature at School


DES MOINES--The Iowa Civil Liberties Union today announced that it is publicly supporting the Christian students who recently filed a lawsuit against the Davenport Schools asserting the right to distribute religious literature during non-instructional time.

“The school's policy against the distribution of religious literature outside of class is clearly wrong,” said Ben Stone, Executive Director of the ICLU.

“Not only does the policy violate the students' right to freely exercise their religious beliefs, but it also infringes on their free speech rights," he said.

http://archive.aclu.org/news/2002/n071102b.html

In Win for Rev. Falwell (and the ACLU), Judge Rules VA Must Allow Churches to Incorporate


RICHMOND, VA--A federal judge has struck down a provision of the Virginia Constitution that bans religious organizations from incorporating, in a challenge filed by the Rev. Jerry Falwell and joined by the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia, the group announced today.

"The judge applied well established constitutional principles to reach the conclusion that Virginia's archaic ban on church incorporation cannot pass constitutional muster," said Rebecca Glenberg, Legal Director of the ACLU of Virginia.

The ACLU joined the lawsuit as a "friend of the court" last fall, challenging the ban on the grounds that it violates the U.S. Constitution's guarantee of free exercise of religion.

Judge Norman K. Moon agreed, and yesterday ordered the State Corporation Commission to grant Falwell's Thomas Road Baptist Church a corporate charter.

http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?discussionID=295684

ACLU stand on separation of church, state isn't anti-religious


Inaccuracies and misrepresentations in local media regarding the American Civil Liberties Union's lawsuit over four Adams County public schools' display of the Ten Commandments require my addressing. Most troubling have been implications (and outright assertions) that the organization is somehow anti-Christian, as well as the almost total lack of coverage and understanding of our side of this story.

As an ordained Presbyterian minister who is president of the Southwest Chapter of the ACLU of Ohio, I refute categorically any characterization of the ACLU as anti-Christian (or, anti-religious, for that matter).

The ACLU has repeatedly challenged the city of Cincinnati to defend the right of religious expression on Fountain Square, as a public forum. And, in the schools, the ACLU has actively defended students' rights of religious expression, including their rights to private, student-led prayer and Bible-study groups, and personal symbolic expression such as wearing 'WWJD' (What Would Jesus Do?) apparel.

...

Clergy and devout lay persons of numerous Christian and other faiths support fully the principle of separation of church and state. My own religious tradition, the Presbyterian Church (USA), as recently as 1998 reaffirmed its longstanding policy and tradition protecting religious liberty, 'especially as it is enshrined in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.' The free exercise of religion does not include government endorsement of religion.

The ACLU has fought long and hard to protect the right of people of all religious faiths to exercise their beliefs (as well as the right of the non-religious to exercise their non-belief).

Public school students can study the Ten Commandments as part of comparative religion and Western Civilization classes; in private, student led study groups; and on their own.

Parents who wish their children to be mindful of their religious beliefs while at school can supply them with Bibles, wallet cards, personal jewelry, etc.

http://www.cincypost.com/opinion/1999/guest031699.html

Why is the ACLU so anti-religion, especially when we can see evidence of religious symbols through out many government agencies, the statement "In God we trust" on the dollar bill for example?

The ACLU is not anti-religion. In fact, there have been numerous instances where a religious group or sect was prevented from practicing their religious beliefs and the ACLU defended them. (Most recently in Florida, we defended the right of Christian and Jewish family members who were forced to remove religious artifacts from grave sites in Boca Raton.)

http://www.aclufl.org/body_faqs0100.html

Uh... it doesn't look like they hate God, dude.

 

[Ikaria]

Seriously man, I agree that the ACLU supports alot of people with values I despise and lifestyles I abhor, but that's part of its job.

The ACLU is like a lawyer. It has to defend ppl's rights, regardless of whether or not it agrees with their individual principles.

 

[Ampmonster]

the ACLU want 300 million robots who are the exact same. thats 5 examples...5 lawyers of their... how many?

1. The state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union is challenging the traditional prayer offered before meals at the Lexington-based Virginia Military Institute, after two cadets complained about the prayers.
2. ACLU lawyers also have attempted to: halt the singing of Christmas carols in public facilities
3. put an end to all military and prison chaplains
4. eliminate all Christian scenes and symbols from public property
5. prohibit voluntary Bible reading in public schools , even during free time
6. remove "In God We Trust" from our coins; and purge the words "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance

Tip of the ACLU iceberg.

 

[Ampmonster]

"The ACLU is like a lawyer'
that's all it is. thats it. and a lawyers motivation is inherintantly $ and glory.
that can be said of any profession, but what do lawyers build? or produce? ship? sell? all the creative things in society? NOTHING. lawyers, (mostly) only destroy and tear down.

 

[Ikaria]

"The ACLU is like a lawyer'
that's all it is. thats it. and a lawyers motivation is inherintantly $ and glory.
that can be said of any profession, but what do lawyers build? or produce? ship? sell? all the creative things in society? NOTHING. lawyers, (mostly) only destroy and tear down.

Hey, I am just as cynical about lawyers as the next man, but if I ever need a defence in court (especially in a case where I need an expert on a particular area of law) I'm still gonna get one and I reckon you would too.

Sadly, lawyers are a necessary evil and I think the same can be said for the ACLU.

What you should be more depressed about, is the fact that we need the existence of the ACLU in the first place!