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So, I posted on here recently about sort of missing God, but being too set in my ways to do anything about it. I just started reading this fabulous book by Christopher Moore called "Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal" and its definitely a favorite. Keep in mind, that I bought it from the point of view of a Non-Christian, thinking that 'hey, this sounds funny, who cares if its christian.'

But then the more I read it, the more I feel this kind of pull. Like, I can't explain it. And then its like, this guy was a real guy who healed people with his hands and died to protect me.

So then I'm thinking that maybe God really is there. Not the God thats a tyrant that all these "christians" I know believe will smite everything, but the one who loves his children so unconditionally that he would send his own son to the slaughter for them. For me.

But at the same time, I'm also thinking, this isn't me. I'm agnostic-animal-activist-liberal-pro-choice-pro-gay Chrissy. Not a christian bible thumper.

And I've read almost all of the old testament and all of the new testament. btw. My mother is a christian, as is my grandmother and my late grandfather, who happened to be a minister and a civil rights activist (back in the 60's).

But my uncle's wife is this christian who thinks that everything is bad and that because I smoke and like Rob Zombie and have a tattoo and have marched for gay rights that I'm going to hell. She's even said this to me before.

This may sound a whole lot strange, but today, I was reading and started to doze off and I kept hearing this voice, like when you start to dream when you're still awake. I don't even remember what he said (it was a man's voice) or what I dreamed, but I woke up feeling so good.

And I'm just so conflicted right now. Like on one side is Jesus who's saying (well, obviously not in these words, "It doesn't matter what everyone else thinks or believes or says, I love you and I just want you to be happy with me." and on the other side someone is saying, "Chrissy, listen to yourself. Believing in Jesus? Are you kidding? You're not one of them. You're too smart. Thats not you."

And then I'm thinking that if this man really did go through all this for me, and this is how I'm repaying him. By snorting lines behind wal-greens after school. Yeah. Makes so much sense.
 

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So, I posted on here recently about sort of missing God, but being too set in my ways to do anything about it. I just started reading this fabulous book by Christopher Moore called "Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal" and its definitely a favorite. Keep in mind, that I bought it from the point of view of a Non-Christian, thinking that 'hey, this sounds funny, who cares if its christian.'

But then the more I read it, the more I feel this kind of pull. Like, I can't explain it. And then its like, this guy was a real guy who healed people with his hands and died to protect me.

So then I'm thinking that maybe God really is there. Not the God thats a tyrant that all these "christians" I know believe will smite everything, but the one who loves his children so unconditionally that he would send his own son to the slaughter for them. For me.

But at the same time, I'm also thinking, this isn't me. I'm agnostic-animal-activist-liberal-pro-choice-pro-gay Chrissy. Not a christian bible thumper.

And I've read almost all of the old testament and all of the new testament. btw. My mother is a christian, as is my grandmother and my late grandfather, who happened to be a minister and a civil rights activist (back in the 60's).

But my uncle's wife is this christian who thinks that everything is bad and that because I smoke and like Rob Zombie and have a tattoo and have marched for gay rights that I'm going to hell. She's even said this to me before.

This may sound a whole lot strange, but today, I was reading and started to doze off and I kept hearing this voice, like when you start to dream when you're still awake. I don't even remember what he said (it was a man's voice) or what I dreamed, but I woke up feeling so good.

And I'm just so conflicted right now. Like on one side is Jesus who's saying (well, obviously not in these words, "It doesn't matter what everyone else thinks or believes or says, I love you and I just want you to be happy with me." and on the other side someone is saying, "Chrissy, listen to yourself. Believing in Jesus? Are you kidding? You're not one of them. You're too smart. Thats not you."

And then I'm thinking that if this man really did go through all this for me, and this is how I'm repaying him. By snorting lines behind wal-greens after school. Yeah. Makes so much sense.

Hi,

I'm glad you wrote.

Hon, it seems God is or already has called you as you wrote at the top you see who Christ is and then you said not like other Christian say he is.

You're right, God does not zap us for things, and do many things some Christians say, which is why it's most important to do as you were doing in reading tht book which helped you so much, gave you thoughts of Jesus which were spot on, truth about Jeuss, it's important that you get to know about Jesus in this way ,such as reading the bible and building a solid foundation of Christ, which is built when we believe in Christ, but strengthened I believe with our understanding and learning of Him.

When strongly built foundation occurs if someone says something that appears contrary to what we know of Christ, we do not get shaken, no matter who the source is; christian or non Christian.

I see you speak of your aunt as well; and again, we don't go by what others say of us. God knows you, and if you've believed in Christ, which I'm not sure you have yet (you may have, I would just have to reread the letter), and so God knows you and it doesn't matter what your aunt says. What matters is Christ. Knowing Christ, learning of Christ, and reading the bible to learn other truths about God and other things.

As salvation comes by belief in Christ, that he died and was resurrected, then after we place our trust and belief in Christ, our walk with Christ begins. And our walks are all different, as you'll find out if you don't already know Christ.

I guess what I'm trying to emphasize is don't place importance on things that people are saying when God is tugging at your heart as he obviously is by that book you were reading about Christ, where God did exactly as you read, send His son to die for our sins, and you're right God is not a tyrant.

He loves you very much and you are precious in his site.

Also, is very commond that while you are considering God that thoughts of are you kidding? would come up. That is due to the spiritual battle occuring over all of us in the world.

I recall sitting in a pew and feeling a blade swinging at the back of my neck as I was sitting praying during a church service. I had already believed in Christ, not but a few days or a week or so before don't recall, but at the time I don't recall what I said to myself, but I did know as I looked back later that I was under spiritual attack. Anyway, the feeling was so strong, I even looked up to see if anything was actually there.

So this is typical to happen as we are being called to God or have come to God to try to frighten us away or turn us away from God.

Once we belong to Christ, no one can snatch us out of His hands. He will never leave you or forsake you.

God, Jesus is the way the truth and the life.

Hon, whatever your life is like it doesn't matter, whatever beliefs you hold about things that others have called you names for doesn't matter. What does matter is faith in Christ, and as we come to Christ, the Holy Spirit indwells us, seals us, a mark, a guarantee of our salvation; all sins are forgiven, present past and future, and our walk with God begins the instant we believe.

As we read the bible, and other things we can do, but reading the bible, our minds are renewed. Often to many times, tho not all, we find that things that were important to us, no longer are important, as they came from a worldly view that we have/had, and not a godly view, which is what I mean by a renewing of the mind.

God never goes against your desires in your growth with him, so you never have to worry as He gave us free will and it's only as we give things over to Him or we ourselves also desire certain things that changes occur.

God loves you as you are, He loves you very much.

I could keep writing, but don't want to turn this into a book. Please send me a private message if you wish, I would love to talk with you. I am not a judgmental person as you'll find others also are not, and you can say whatever is on your heart to say, I would never judge you.

God is amazing, Jesus when I believed, changed me, we are changed in an instant, the a new creation in Christ, the old passes away, and I was living in a pit and seems at just the right time Christ grabbed my hand and pulled me up. I can't imagine life without God and don't know how I made it thru each day before knowing Christ.

I would love to hear from you and of course you can also post here but just wanted you to know, I'd love to talk with you also.
 
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So, I posted on here recently about sort of missing God, but being too set in my ways to do anything about it. I just started reading this fabulous book by Christopher Moore called "Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal" and its definitely a favorite. Keep in mind, that I bought it from the point of view of a Non-Christian, thinking that 'hey, this sounds funny, who cares if its christian.'

But then the more I read it, the more I feel this kind of pull. Like, I can't explain it. And then its like, this guy was a real guy who healed people with his hands and died to protect me.

So then I'm thinking that maybe God really is there. Not the God thats a tyrant that all these "christians" I know believe will smite everything, but the one who loves his children so unconditionally that he would send his own son to the slaughter for them. For me.

But at the same time, I'm also thinking, this isn't me. I'm agnostic-animal-activist-liberal-pro-choice-pro-gay Chrissy. Not a christian bible thumper.

And I've read almost all of the old testament and all of the new testament. btw. My mother is a christian, as is my grandmother and my late grandfather, who happened to be a minister and a civil rights activist (back in the 60's).

But my uncle's wife is this christian who thinks that everything is bad and that because I smoke and like Rob Zombie and have a tattoo and have marched for gay rights that I'm going to hell. She's even said this to me before.

This may sound a whole lot strange, but today, I was reading and started to doze off and I kept hearing this voice, like when you start to dream when you're still awake. I don't even remember what he said (it was a man's voice) or what I dreamed, but I woke up feeling so good.

And I'm just so conflicted right now. Like on one side is Jesus who's saying (well, obviously not in these words, "It doesn't matter what everyone else thinks or believes or says, I love you and I just want you to be happy with me." and on the other side someone is saying, "Chrissy, listen to yourself. Believing in Jesus? Are you kidding? You're not one of them. You're too smart. Thats not you."

And then I'm thinking that if this man really did go through all this for me, and this is how I'm repaying him. By snorting lines behind wal-greens after school. Yeah. Makes so much sense.
The important thing is to recognise that God is real, and that He wants to have a real relationship with you.
The details of what you believe about other things really don't matter.
If you can come to Him and acknowledge everything He went through for you, and accept that He did that out of love for you - for you as you are, not some perfect, poster-Christian version, but for who you are today - that is what matters.
If you accept Him, not just intellectually, but as Lord of your life, He will never , ever reject you.
And yes, He will change you, because He wants you to be all that He has created you to be.
But that is not necessarily what you percieve it to be. What others tell you is 'unchristian' is often not what God is concerned about. God will NOT send anyone to hell for smoking, having tatooes, etc. He is interested in your heart.

The bottom line is that He loved you enough to be tortured and to die for you - and He wants you to know Him. And to do that you need to confess that you have messed things up without Him, and let Him take over.
And that is the most incredible and wonderful thing that you can do with your life!

God bless you.
 
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So then I'm thinking that maybe God really is there. Not the God thats a tyrant that all these "christians" I know believe will smite everything, but the one who loves his children so unconditionally that he would send his own son to the slaughter for them. For me.

if you do not except him. he will do the same to you.
 
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So then I'm thinking that maybe God really is there. Not the God thats a tyrant that all these "christians" I know believe will smite everything, but the one who loves his children so unconditionally that he would send his own son to the slaughter for them. For me.
Lots of people know John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.

fewer know John 3:17.

For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through Him.

"Chrissy, listen to yourself. Believing in Jesus? Are you kidding? You're not one of them. You're too smart. Thats not you."

FWIW, I graduated 2 out of 415 in high school, made a 1480 on the SAT, and have a graduated college with honors and I believe in Him.

Believing in Jesus Christ doesn't make you dumb or naive. There are several intelligent people who believe in Him (and yes, several who don't).

But go and learn what this means, "I DESIRE COMPASSION AND NOT SACRIFICE," for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.
Matthew 9:13

From that time Jesus began to preach, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
Matthew 4:17
 
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Hi, you still there? What wonderful words above.
It sounds like you are in for an adventure. Let it happen.

But at the same time, I'm also thinking, this isn't me. I'm agnostic-animal-activist-liberal-pro-choice-pro-gay Chrissy. Not a christian bible thumper.
This is your chance to breathe new life into perceptions... to live the Christian life you believe should be lived. You believe in social justice for a reason -- because things need to be said!

You've read through the ministry of Jesus -- he made some crazy waves in His day. The spiritual leaders were quite offended that He didn't fit into their mold.

But my uncle's wife is this christian who thinks that everything is bad and that because I smoke and like Rob Zombie and have a tattoo and have marched for gay rights that I'm going to hell.
I suspect you marched in defense of people who felt underrepresented or treated poorly... to support friends... to make some waves... to have some social fun.... not out of any sinister motive. Jesus made friends with prostitutes and tax collectors that had a reputation for corruption.

And I'm just so conflicted right now. Like on one side is Jesus who's saying (well, obviously not in these words, "It doesn't matter what everyone else thinks or believes or says, I love you and I just want you to be happy with me." and on the other side someone is saying, "Chrissy, listen to yourself. Believing in Jesus? Are you kidding? You're not one of them. You're too smart. Thats not you."
Use your brains for good. Don't become the bad side of what you have seen. Respond to God in the purest way, without religious clutter. Be strong and refuse to agree with what people say you should do unless you know with conviction that you should do it.

Make the bond with God, not with opinions that come and go. You will find different religiosities in every group of people, so you will need to find out who you are in Him. We waver, bend and breaj if we continually respond to what people want of us.
 
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