Epic of Gilgamesh?

Rubiks · Aug 14, 2012

I heard someone say today that the story of noah's ark copied the epic of gilgamesh. honestly there are some interesting similarities. Is it the other way around and the epic copied the bible?

please reply

teevee · Aug 14, 2012

The historical event of the flood and Noah's ark is correct if you believe in the divine inspiration of the Bible. The Genesis account of the flood was kept pure and accurate until Moses wrote down the account by God's divine guidance. The Epic of Gilgamesh is mythological; it is the corrupted account of those who did not follow the God of the Hebrews.

childofdust · Aug 14, 2012

The 11th tablet of the Gilgamesh Epic, the flood tablet, was added to the Gilgamesh epic at a late date. The earlier versions of Gilgamesh do not have it.

Godel · Aug 14, 2012

Rubiks said:
I heard someone say today that the story of noah's ark copied the epic of gilgamesh. honestly there are some interesting similarities. Is it the other way around and the epic copied the bible?

If you believe Scripture, you would expect to find flood accounts (which we have, in fact, found) from ancient cultures outside of Israel, since they all descended from Noah and it would be considered a big event for all of them. So, it's no surprise to find similarities among the different accounts.

As to which is the "original" account, again, if you believe Scripture, then obviously Noah's is the true account. As far as what archeology as found, the oldest written copies of the Gilgamesh account date earlier than the written copies of the Noah account we've found so far. While that can suggest Gilgamesh was written first, it is by no means conclusive. It doesn't take into account the possibility that Noah was handed down by oral tradition long before it was written down; or the possibility that the written form only existed with the patriarchs from Noah to Moses until Moses compiled it into the Torah.

The Sodoq Zacharias · Aug 24, 2012

Rubiks said:
I heard someone say today that the story of noah's ark copied the epic of gilgamesh. honestly there are some interesting similarities. Is it the other way around and the epic copied the bible?

please reply

Noakh , Nuh , Noah , born in 1056 of Adam's Calendar , and the flood . Noakh , Nuh , Noah , rose up in the atms of the midwife named Zifa'a , And he was covered with an overshowing Anunnaqi from El Rabb , the Sustainer of Zodoq , righteousness . When he opened his eyes , a beam of light came forth , and it lit the whole tent like the sun . This light brought fear to whoever was present , He also spoke from the cradle . Lamech , father of Noakh , Nuh , Noah , thought that he might be a Jabaariyn , from the Nephileems .

His wife , Kamiylah , assured him that Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was his and her son only . As a child we looked after him , other children called him Strange because he always Cried during Sunlit Days and rejoiced when the clouds filled the sky . He , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , never knew why Water fell from his Eyes on the Sunlit Days . But he was to see that great day of cleaning a great fall of Water as the Water in his Eyes , The was our son , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , who was great amongst men , He was born from the seed of Lamech when he was 182 years of age . As a babe he Cried day and shadow hour . Yet , my Anunnaqi was with him .

He Lamech , was also called Malak , Malakan , and Lalay . Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was born 69 years after Adafa , Idriys , Enoch ascended to heaven . At his birth , Haylal cried with joy for victory over all mortals . All of his host celebrated . Their cries of joy could be heard from the sky to the depths of the sea , They awoke all the fish of the sea and our son , Zakar , Kadmon , Adam , soul cried for his sons . Victory is mine ! was the cry of Haylal , .. Zifa'a The Midwife Of Noah / Lamech , Son Of Methuselah / Kamiylah , Wife Of Lamech / Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , Son Of Lamech And Kamiyiah ,

For all Adamites have fallen to sin , And the whole Earth lives under Nanna , whose names was also Sin , Sin is the new light of the Earth . And now all men will be destroyed , yes I will have their souls . What a great time this is , '' And All The Animals Of The Earth , And The Birds Of The Sky And Even The Fish Of The Sea Cried For The Adamite's Soul . Crying for 40 days , and 40 shadow hours , Yet, in the midst of all the fires of the spirit of Haylal , these was a small spark of hope - a light , Zakar , Kadmon , Adam ,, Son Of Lamech , son of Methuselah , son of Adafa , Idriys , Enoch , son of Jared , son of Mahalaleel son of Kenan , son Adafa , Idriys , Enoch , son of Shayth , Shiyth , Seth , son of Zakar , Kadmon , Adam ,

He was the only mortal to cry with the animals of the Earth , and the birds of the sky , and the fish of the sea . He alone felt the pains of them , being the first mortal to eat fish and animal flesh . At the age of 13 , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , ran away from his family into the woods , and there all the trees bowed to him , saying we have waited for you many years . Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , lived with them until he was 19 , and he had no friends to speak to , except for the trees , and the animals of the woods . He , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , learned how to speak the language of the animals , and when he raised his voice , they all came to him .

He spoke to them about the fall of Enosites , and the Adamites . He lived in joy with them from the age of 13 , to the age of 19 , As the father of the animals they called him '' Ziu '' So unto the animals he , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was known as '' Ziu '' .Also Read Genesis 6 ; 9 - 10

ebia · Aug 25, 2012

Rubiks said:
I heard someone say today that the story of noah's ark copied the epic of gilgamesh. honestly there are some interesting similarities. Is it the other way around and the epic copied the bible?

please reply

Variants of the Gilgamesh story are widespread across much of the ANE. it's far more plausible that the Noah story partially derives from the Gilgamesh story than the other way around.

Israel took the Gilgamesh story and subverted it to say something very different about us, creation, and the creator God. Somehow they produced (at least) two different versions of their story and then interwove those two to produce the account we have.

That doesnt stop it being inspired scripture.

ebia · Aug 25, 2012

Godel said:
If you believe Scripture, you would expect to find flood accounts (which we have, in fact, found) from ancient cultures outside of Israel, since they all descended from Noah and it would be considered a big event for all of them. So, it's no surprise to find similarities among the different accounts.

Except that flood stories tend to correlate to being at least close to somewhere that experiences sever flooding occasionally.

If all such flood stories come from a real flood on the Noah scale you would not expect:
Flood stories to correlate with experience of local flooding.
Nearness to Mesopotamia to correlate with similarity to the Gilgamesh story.

The Sodoq Zacharias · Aug 25, 2012

The Sodoq Zacharias said:
Noakh , Nuh , Noah , born in 1056 of Adam's Calendar , and the flood . Noakh , Nuh , Noah , rose up in the atms of the midwife named Zifa'a , And he was covered with an overshowing Anunnaqi from El Rabb , the Sustainer of Zodoq , righteousness . When he opened his eyes , a beam of light came forth , and it lit the whole tent like the sun . This light brought fear to whoever was present , He also spoke from the cradle . Lamech , father of Noakh , Nuh , Noah , thought that he might be a Jabaariyn , from the Nephileems .

His wife , Kamiylah , assured him that Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was his and her son only . As a child we looked after him , other children called him Strange because he always Cried during Sunlit Days and rejoiced when the clouds filled the sky . He , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , never knew why Water fell from his Eyes on the Sunlit Days . But he was to see that great day of cleaning a great fall of Water as the Water in his Eyes , The was our son , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , who was great amongst men , He was born from the seed of Lamech when he was 182 years of age . As a babe he Cried day and shadow hour . Yet , my Anunnaqi was with him .

He Lamech , was also called Malak , Malakan , and Lalay . Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was born 69 years after Adafa , Idriys , Enoch ascended to heaven . At his birth , Haylal cried with joy for victory over all mortals . All of his host celebrated . Their cries of joy could be heard from the sky to the depths of the sea , They awoke all the fish of the sea and our son , Zakar , Kadmon , Adam , soul cried for his sons . Victory is mine ! was the cry of Haylal , .. Zifa'a The Midwife Of Noah / Lamech , Son Of Methuselah / Kamiylah , Wife Of Lamech / Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , Son Of Lamech And Kamiyiah ,

For all Adamites have fallen to sin , And the whole Earth lives under Nanna , whose names was also Sin , Sin is the new light of the Earth . And now all men will be destroyed , yes I will have their souls . What a great time this is , '' And All The Animals Of The Earth , And The Birds Of The Sky And Even The Fish Of The Sea Cried For The Adamite's Soul . Crying for 40 days , and 40 shadow hours , Yet, in the midst of all the fires of the spirit of Haylal , these was a small spark of hope - a light , Zakar , Kadmon , Adam ,, Son Of Lamech , son of Methuselah , son of Adafa , Idriys , Enoch , son of Jared , son of Mahalaleel son of Kenan , son Adafa , Idriys , Enoch , son of Shayth , Shiyth , Seth , son of Zakar , Kadmon , Adam ,

He was the only mortal to cry with the animals of the Earth , and the birds of the sky , and the fish of the sea . He alone felt the pains of them , being the first mortal to eat fish and animal flesh . At the age of 13 , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , ran away from his family into the woods , and there all the trees bowed to him , saying we have waited for you many years . Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , lived with them until he was 19 , and he had no friends to speak to , except for the trees , and the animals of the woods . He , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , learned how to speak the language of the animals , and when he raised his voice , they all came to him .

He spoke to them about the fall of Enosites , and the Adamites . He lived in joy with them from the age of 13 , to the age of 19 , As the father of the animals they called him '' Ziu '' So unto the animals he , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was known as '' Ziu '' .Also Read Genesis 6 ; 9 - 10

( Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah Begins To Grow ) .
At the age of 20 , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah who is also called Ziusudra , traveled also throughout the woods from vine to vine . Then he departed from the woods , to return to his own people , to teach them , About all that he had learned , Only to find that they called him '' a fool , While Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , slept , a son of Haylal paid him a visit and asked ; '' O apostle of A'lyun A'lyun El , do you know what is to come ? It was as this point in Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , life that he learned he was an apostle of A'lyun A'lyun El .

Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , said ; '' I don't . And a son of Haylal , said with a grin ; '' If you don't , nor do I , He laughed and flew away . Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , turned to a man that he knows , who was a good soul . named Baqssi , or Baqissi . And he asked ; '' O Baqssi , what is going to happen ? '' Baqssi said '' I will tell you , At that point he began to cough . This Was The First Time Any Mortal Had Made This Sound , Which sounded like thunder , to the ears of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , Then He , Baqssi Sneezed , This Was The First Time That Any Mortal Had Sneezed On The Physical Plane . Baqssi , Friend Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , This was like the wind of the storm . Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , asked him , being a wise man , '' what is that you are doing ,

He said ; this is your answer . You must find the light in them , From that day on Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , had a cold for 3 weeks . His eyes ran , his nose was stopped up , and he coughed and sneezed , But he did not know what it meant , Naama , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , new found mate , laid Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , down to rest , And she covered him in mint leaves in his tent . She then covered him in lamb skin , And all his body was covered in water , perspiration , But he still did not know its neaning . From Then On , If Man Neglects His Body . He Will Become Ill .

When Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , recovered at the age of 500 , He went in unto his wife Naama and she bore him three sons at once , triples , And they called them Shem , Ham and Japheth , when Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was 500 years old

juvenissun · Aug 26, 2012

Rubiks said:
I heard someone say today that the story of noah's ark copied the epic of gilgamesh. honestly there are some interesting similarities. Is it the other way around and the epic copied the bible?

please reply

The significance is not on their similarities but on their differences. The differences are HUGE.

juvenissun · Aug 26, 2012

ebia said:
Variants of the Gilgamesh story are widespread across much of the ANE. it's far more plausible that the Noah story partially derives from the Gilgamesh story than the other way around.

Israel took the Gilgamesh story and subverted it to say something very different about us, creation, and the creator God. Somehow they produced (at least) two different versions of their story and then interwove those two to produce the account we have.

That doesnt stop it being inspired scripture.

I believe it is not the only case in the formation of the Bible.
And this is why the Bible is a wonderful Book beyond imagination.

The Sodoq Zacharias · Aug 26, 2012

( The Triplets )
Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , took unto himself his wife's handmaid , Waala , And he went in unto her , and she gave him a son and called his name Raya , He was a playful son and Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , loved him deeply . But Waala was the kind of woman who always asked '' why this and why that ? Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , would say unto her ; '' O Waala , I need you to tie my tent right now ! And Waala would ask ; can't I do it later , O beloved husband ?

'' Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , would say to her ; Let Raya run with his brothers Shems , Ham and Japheth , And she , Waala , would want him to be by her side . So he , Raya , became the son of his mother , Waala , rather than the son of his father , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , So now was the time for Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , to be called , And he was sent to a ruler name Zuhak , And his people in the land called Enoch to guide them , But they only laughed , and cheered at him . And they mocked the face veil that his and his son's wives wore .

They would pull their cloaks over their faces and point as Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , women and call them fool's . But Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , taught them from the hilltops to each tents . He yelled from the top of his voice to a whisper . But none of them listened , they only mocked him . The people , the Hurrians under the ruler Zuhak , were worshippers of Wad , Suwaa , Yaghooth , Nasr and many other man - made deities , It was

after all sorts of wicked and base acts that A'lyun A'lyun El , sent Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , to them , He was the first apostle to frighten people on the account of their infidelity , And the first messenger at whose request a nation was destroyed , And the first person who will , in the second creation . Waala , Wife Of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah / Raya , Son Of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , And Waala / Zuhak , The Ruler Who Wanted Untnafishtim Dead . Also Read Genesis 6 ; 9 - 10

The Sodoq Zacharias · Aug 27, 2012

The Sodoq Zacharias said:
( The Triplets )
Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , took unto himself his wife's handmaid , Waala , And he went in unto her , and she gave him a son and called his name Raya , He was a playful son and Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , loved him deeply . But Waala was the kind of woman who always asked '' why this and why that ? Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , would say unto her ; '' O Waala , I need you to tie my tent right now ! And Waala would ask ; can't I do it later , O beloved husband ?

'' Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , would say to her ; Let Raya run with his brothers Shems , Ham and Japheth , And she , Waala , would want him to be by her side . So he , Raya , became the son of his mother , Waala , rather than the son of his father , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , So now was the time for Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , to be called , And he was sent to a ruler name Zuhak , And his people in the land called Enoch to guide them , But they only laughed , and cheered at him . And they mocked the face veil that his and his son's wives wore .

They would pull their cloaks over their faces and point as Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , women and call them fool's . But Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , taught them from the hilltops to each tents . He yelled from the top of his voice to a whisper . But none of them listened , they only mocked him . The people , the Hurrians under the ruler Zuhak , were worshippers of Wad , Suwaa , Yaghooth , Nasr and many other man - made deities , It was

after all sorts of wicked and base acts that A'lyun A'lyun El , sent Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , to them , He was the first apostle to frighten people on the account of their infidelity , And the first messenger at whose request a nation was destroyed , And the first person who will , in the second creation . Waala , Wife Of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah / Raya , Son Of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , And Waala / Zuhak , The Ruler Who Wanted Untnafishtim Dead . Also Read Genesis 6 ; 9 - 10

The Robe Of Prophecy )
When the stature of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , ability had been invested with the robe of prophecy , and El Shaadi , The Almighty had dispatched him to preach to the inhabitants of the world , He was engaged in guiding and directing them for 950 years . A small company accepted his words eventhough he suffered much persecution from the infidelity , Of those who turned back after having faith in him . He said ; '' my Creator , direct the people for they don't know , '' They called him a practitioner of sorcery and a madman . Once when he , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was preaching after his marriage to his third wife Mubiyna ,

Who was the sister of Fatwa , the wife of his brother Ala's , A prominent individual , named Baasir by name , went with him , He was only 150 days , old . He , Baasir , Commenced to admonish him saying ; '' My son ! Know that this fellow is a magus , magician and a liar , Take care , and don't abandon the faith of the ancestors , and don't be decoyed by his enticing words , Endeavor rather to distress him as much as possible , For this is the command of our fathers ''

During this insulting speech , Some men of this town found the wife of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , Mubiyna , in the field , These 6 men were sent by the ruler Zuhak , to kill Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , but they found instead his wife Mubiyna , sister of Fatwa , Who was the wife of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , brother Ala ,

ebedmelech · Aug 27, 2012

Rubiks said:
I heard someone say today that the story of noah's ark copied the epic of gilgamesh. honestly there are some interesting similarities. Is it the other way around and the epic copied the bible?

please reply

They have their similarities but I think we have to realize as the world began to be populated through Noah and his sons the more time passes on and races and nationalities came about the story of the flood get's embellished and influenced by paganism and mythology.

Here's a link comparing the two: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic

The Sodoq Zacharias · Aug 28, 2012

ebedmelech said:
They have their similarities but I think we have to realize as the world began to be populated through Noah and his sons the more time passes on and races and nationalities came about the story of the flood get's embellished and influenced by paganism and mythology.

Here's a link comparing the two: Noah/quote]

Let not forget Gilgamesh Epic and other Tablet's were written way before the Holy Bible , Meaning it have to more than just similarties . What about the Adam & Eve Story ?

The Sodoq Zacharias · Aug 28, 2012

The Sodoq Zacharias said:
The Robe Of Prophecy )
When the stature of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , ability had been invested with the robe of prophecy , and El Shaadi , The Almighty had dispatched him to preach to the inhabitants of the world , He was engaged in guiding and directing them for 950 years . A small company accepted his words eventhough he suffered much persecution from the infidelity , Of those who turned back after having faith in him . He said ; '' my Creator , direct the people for they don't know , '' They called him a practitioner of sorcery and a madman . Once when he , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was preaching after his marriage to his third wife Mubiyna ,

Who was the sister of Fatwa , the wife of his brother Ala's , A prominent individual , named Baasir by name , went with him , He was only 150 days , old . He , Baasir , Commenced to admonish him saying ; '' My son ! Know that this fellow is a magus , magician and a liar , Take care , and don't abandon the faith of the ancestors , and don't be decoyed by his enticing words , Endeavor rather to distress him as much as possible , For this is the command of our fathers ''

During this insulting speech , Some men of this town found the wife of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , Mubiyna , in the field , These 6 men were sent by the ruler Zuhak , to kill Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , but they found instead his wife Mubiyna , sister of Fatwa , Who was the wife of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , brother Ala ,

( The Death Of Mubiyna )
But only after she killed 2 of them , Shaki and Rahdun , did she give her soul back to A'lyun A'lyun El . Shah , Khan , Huwlati and Burun , These 4 men went running to Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , to help him build the Ark , for they repented when the Anunnqi Izraa'El came for her , Mubiyna's soul , and cursed them , Saying , that when they die , he would leave their souls in their bodies to rot with it , When Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , found out what they had done unto his wife , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , asked ; '' O Sustainer of all things , giver and taker of life , Will none of the progeny of this nation accept ? ''

Then the announcement came 100 years after Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was 500 , In his 600th year , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , went on to live for 900 years . The pen of the divine will have thus decreed , That none of the descendants of these wicked hearted people should profess the unity of El . Except those who already have faith . Man's wickedness is too great in the Earth , All he thinks to do is evil , All the thoughts of his heart is evil continually . He has killed my daughters , Mubiyna . He is nothing but a shedder of blood and a violent killer , As the Aluhum asked , And knew not , It is done ,

Now Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was 500 years building this Ark , And he was great in age , Being that first man with wrinklets under his black eyes from a many sleepess shadow hours , whereas Methuselah had his wrinkles from his age being 969 years of age , waiting for the answer to his father , Adafa , Idriys , Enoch ascension from this plane to Malakuwt . Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , was short in stature and round in build , having a very sad face , For he cried more than any man . He Had Dark Skin With Very Thick Lips , And Black Wooly Hair . He was always dressed in white and all his women kept their faces covered from the sight of men after Mubiyna's death .

At 13 years old , the Anunnaqi gave him an ebony seed . After 40 years when he was 53 years old . It grew to full size . From it was the coffin to be made . This tree grew 100 feet in height . In which the body of Zakar , Kadmon , Adam ,was tobe laid until man found his way back to the garden in Malakuwt , At which time he is to be buried there , Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah , never wore sandals , he was always barefoot , He loved to walk and he always cried as he walked from place to place . Naama Wife Of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah / Shem , Son Of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah And Naama / Japeth Son Of Utnafishtim , Noakh , Nuh , Noah And Naama ,

juvenissun · Aug 30, 2012

The Sodoq Zacharias said:
ebedmelech said:

They have their similarities but I think we have to realize as the world began to be populated through Noah and his sons the more time passes on and races and nationalities came about the story of the flood get's embellished and influenced by paganism and mythology.

Here's a link comparing the two: Noah/quote]

Let not forget Gilgamesh Epic and other Tablet's were written way before the Holy Bible , Meaning it have to more than just similarties . What about the Adam & Eve Story ?

Click to expand...

Good question.

DamianWarS · Aug 30, 2012

Rubiks said:
I heard someone say today that the story of noah's ark copied the epic of gilgamesh. honestly there are some interesting similarities. Is it the other way around and the epic copied the bible?

please reply

ancient cultures are primitive and their abilities to preserve accounts all are rooted in story telling passed down from generation to generation. The Israelites themselves did not escape this archaic and primitive way of keeping details. Eventually these accounts are written down to be better preserved and to keep things from getting out of control with embellishments and other cultural corruption. The more advanced the cultured the better this "book keeping" was and the more primitive the culture the more variants were made of these events.

This is how all ancient culture started and this is how Moses found Israel when he marched them out into the desert. I'm sure every household had a different version of what actually happen with events like creation, the flood, even their own forefathers and all the details in between and in the case of Israel they were probably heavily influenced by the Egyptians who were a much more advance and articulated culture.

But in the end we have a written down account that has been preserved but unlike the millions of other accounts the bible has not been warped, manipulated, and twisted into man made ideas, embellishments and cultural influences. It Instead it is the unfathomable infinite truth brought down to us by God contextualized to fit our little minds to revel one spiritual truth that only He is the force behind all things and an echoing cry desiring restored relationship with us. On the other hand stories like the epic of gilgamesh may have eliminates of truth and actual events hidden within them but their source is only man attempting to figure it out by scraping together old stories and tales and is not God-breathed revelation.

The Sodoq Zacharias · Aug 31, 2012

Let not forget Gilgamesh Epic and other Tablet's were written way before the Holy Bible , Meaning it have to more than just similarties . ( Keyword these Tablet'ss were written Wayyyy before the Holy Bible was written ) Meaning our Holy Bible come from these ( Tablet'ss ) . THE similarities are to close ,

ebedmelech · Aug 31, 2012

The Sodoq Zacharias said:
Let not forget Gilgamesh Epic and other Tablet's were written way before the Holy Bible , Meaning it have to more than just similarties . ( Keyword these Tablet'ss were written Wayyyy before the Holy Bible was written ) Meaning our Holy Bible come from these ( Tablet'ss ) . THE similarities are to close ,

Ok...So what?

Being written earlier doesn't make the case for which is true and neither does it mean because the Epic is earlier that it is true.

If you go strictly by archaeology the bible has more archaeological proven evidence to bolster it than ANY writings of antiquity.

What's your point? Because there's no case for one being true over the other. Yet truly the bible is proven the most historically accurate.

*It's manuscript evidence

*It's archaeological evidence

*It's Prophetic evidence

Christians are on firm footing.

The Sodoq Zacharias · Aug 31, 2012

ebedmelech said:
Ok...So what?

Being written earlier doesn't make the case for which is true and neither does it mean because the Epic is earlier that it is true.

If you go strictly by archaeology the bible has more archaeological proven evidence to bolster it than ANY writings of antiquity.

What's your point? Because there's no case for one being true over the other. Yet truly the bible is proven the most historically accurate.

*It's manuscript evidence

*It's archaeological evidence

*It's Prophetic evidence

Christians are on firm footing.

The fact that the same Story'ss in The Bible was Written wayyyyy before your Bible was written , So you can come up with all type of excuse it still wont change the fact the story was before , Now look up the word Befor ok ,

Epic of Gilgamesh?

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