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Ephraim on the Eucharist

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ST. EPHRAIM (c. 306 - 373 A.D.)

Our Lord Jesus took in His hands what in the beginning was only bread; and He blessed it, and signed it, and made it holy in the name of the Father and in the name of the Spirit; and He broke it and in His gracious kindness He distributed it to all His disciples one by one. He called the bread His living Body, and did Himself fill it with Himself and the Spirit. And extending His hand, He gave them the Bread which His right hand had made holy: "Take, all of you eat of this, which My word has made holy. Do not now regard as bread that which I have given you; but take, eat this Bread, and do not scatter the crumbs; for what I have called My Body, that it is indeed. One particle from its crumbs is able to sanctify thousands and thousands, and is sufficient to afford life to those who eat of it. Take, eat, entertaining no doubt of faith, because this is My Body, and whoever eats it in belief eats in it Fire and Spirit. But if any doubter eat of it, for him it will be only bread. And whoever eats in belief the Bread made holy in My name, if he be pure, he will be preserved in his purity; and if he be a sinner, he will be forgiven." But if anyone despise it or reject it or treat it with ignominy, it may be taken as a certainty that he treats with ignominy the Son, who called it and actually made it to be His Body.

After the disciples had eaten the new and holy Bread, and when they understood by faith that they had eaten of Christ's body, Christ went on to explain and to give them the whole Sacrament. He took and mixed a cup of wine. Then He blessed it, and signed it, and made it holy, declaring that it was His own Blood, which was about to be poured out...Christ commanded them to drink, and He explained to them that the cup which they were drinking was His own Blood: "This is truly My Blood, which is shed for all of you. Take, all of you, drink of this, because it is a new covenant in My Blood. As you have seen Me do, do you also in My memory. Whenever you are gathered together in My name in Churches everywhere, do what I have done, in memory of Me. Eat My Body, and drink My Blood, a covenant new and old." (Homilies 4:4; 4:6)[/quote]

Ahhh...  My favorite of the Early Fathers.  What a poetic heart!

God Bless,

Neal
 
If as you say, the Roman Catholic Church considers the Eucharist to be the center of Christian worship, then why are ALL of the lay people DENIED TO PARTAKE OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST at this wedding feast? They are only allowed the bread, the body of our Lord Jesus Christ. Surely this is NOT what Jesus intended!!!!!! The scriptures clearly state that Jesus commands the people to partake of the body and the blood (BOTH bread AND wine). So much for infallible Catholic doctrine!
 
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Originally posted by swalker
If as you say, the Roman Catholic Church considers the Eucharist to be the center of Christian worship, then why are ALL of the lay people DENIED TO PARTAKE OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST at this wedding feast? They are only allowed the bread, the body of our Lord Jesus Christ. Surely this is NOT what Jesus intended!!!!!! The scriptures clearly state that Jesus commands the people to partake of the body and the blood (BOTH bread AND wine). So much for infallible Catholic doctrine!

Catholics partake of both the Body and the Blood.

You seem angry. Do you need a hug?
:hug:
 
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Originally posted by seebs
I mean, as part of the sacrament. I know lutherans do wine+wafer, but I have no idea what you guys do.

That was a joke, Seebs!
*Note to self: stop trying to be funny*
;)

Yes, the wine is offered to Catholics at every Mass.
 
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Originally posted by swalker
If as you say, the Roman Catholic Church considers the Eucharist to be the center of Christian worship, then why are ALL of the lay people DENIED TO PARTAKE OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST at this wedding feast? They are only allowed the bread, the body of our Lord Jesus Christ. Surely this is NOT what Jesus intended!!!!!! The scriptures clearly state that Jesus commands the people to partake of the body and the blood (BOTH bread AND wine). So much for infallible Catholic doctrine!

Yes, you have single-handely disproved the infalliblility of our doctrine. Congrats! Why not write a book? I hear Jack Chick would like a partner...
 
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Originally posted by swalker
If as you say, the Roman Catholic Church considers the Eucharist to be the center of Christian worship, then why are ALL of the lay people DENIED TO PARTAKE OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST at this wedding feast? They are only allowed the bread, the body of our Lord Jesus Christ. Surely this is NOT what Jesus intended!!!!!! The scriptures clearly state that Jesus commands the people to partake of the body and the blood (BOTH bread AND wine). So much for infallible Catholic doctrine!

You are showing your lack of knowledge in the Catholic Faith.  First off, the people aren't denied the Blood of Christ; it's contained in the host.  That's why back in the Middle Ages, the lay people were denied the cup so the Church could reinforce the teaching that the Blood is contained in the host.  Today, we can receive the Cup however it is optional for people to drink from the cup since the teaching is that the Blood is contained in the Body. 

Welcome to Christian Forums.  I've noticed in a couple of threads you come in and post and then leave to another thread.  First off, familiarize yourself with the rules of this forum.  Your tone is unacceptable and we will not allow Catholic bashing.  You may ask questions but you will not put down the Catholic Church as you have in this post.  If you can not abide by these rules, you will receive warnings which can ultimately lead to your suspension or banning from Christian Forums.

Thank you.

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Oh, Neal...

I've never read that before, and I'm going to copy it to my heart. I'm almost in tears here at my desk, with the overwhelming love that Christ had for us, giving us the Eucharist.

St Ephraim, pray for us.


Peace be with you,
~VOW
 
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VOW, you might as well not bother -- Catholicism has crumbled and fallen under the crushing weight of the accusations leveled at us by swalker.

I mean, look at this:
Surely this is NOT what Jesus intended!!!!!!

If there were only 5 excalamation points there, I think we could have refuted it -- but with 6, there's no hope. I will now become a Southern Baptist.

-Chris
 
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Catholic-bashing, the Drinking Game. I could repost that. The neat thing about OBOB is that the only mods who delete threads here have a sense of humor.

S0uljah, I'll be sorry to see you convert again; I liked you as a Catholic. Hey, wait a second.

S0uljah, stay Catholic!!!!!!! <-- 7!

I've one-upped him, and there's no way he can win. My keyboard has auto-repeat!
 
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Originally posted by swalker
If as you say, the Roman Catholic Church considers the Eucharist to be the center of Christian worship, then why are ALL of the lay people DENIED TO PARTAKE OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST at this wedding feast? They are only allowed the bread, the body of our Lord Jesus Christ. Surely this is NOT what Jesus intended!!!!!! The scriptures clearly state that Jesus commands the people to partake of the body and the blood (BOTH bread AND wine). So much for infallible Catholic doctrine!

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Swalker - the bread and wine are mingled in the process of consecration.&nbsp; A part of the host is placed into the cup - by doing this the two in effect become ONE.&nbsp; If you partake of just one you partake of both. :)

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That being said - in the church I belong to we offer communion under both species by intincture.&nbsp; :) However, there are times when the cup is offered to be drunk from - mainly special occasions.
 
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