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Enoch: Apocalypse of Weeks

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I'm surprised that there isn't a topic on Enoch's Apocalpyse of Weeks. At least, I can't find one doing a simple search.
I realized that a lot of people simply dismiss the Book of Enoch as it is not part of the canon of Scripture. Yet, it is quoted. And many people seem to be fascinated by its contents. I think there are parts that are important information. But there is a lot that reads like bad biblical fan fiction - Enoch turning into an angel.

The Apocalypse of Weeks is very intriguing. 10 periods of Weeks that divide the entirety of human history. The key is provided in the first week when the author says that Enoch was born in the 7th day of the first week. According to the genealogy of Gen 5, Enoch was born in Year 622 after Creation. That is in the 7th day of the Week if each Week corresponds to 700 years. So 10 Weeks x 700 years is a total of 7000 years of human history.

Now where to start the period. Many people have various ideas. My research has shown that the Year of Creation was exactly 3970 BC. You'll have to see my material as to how I determine that. But based on that all the Weeks have a start and end year in our BC/AD calendar system. And it's fascinating to read what each week contains and find that it's accurate. This means that the yet future Weeks should also be accurate.


English translation by Charles:


Apocalypse of Weeks
1-700 3970-3270 BC

701-1400 3269-2570 BC

1401-2100 2469-1870 BC

2101-2800 1869-1170 BC

2801-3500 1169-470 BC

3501-4200 469 BC-231 AD

4201-4900 232-931 AD

4901-5600 932-1631 AD

5601-6300 1632-2331 AD

6301-7000 2332-3031 AD


Note: Check out my video series where I describe all of this in depth
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5hXmAa69111HHGaHBPsqnX2_O3ggD_-e
 
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I'm surprised that there isn't a topic on Enoch's Apocalpyse of Weeks. At least, I can't find one doing a simple search.
I realized that a lot of people simply dismiss the Book of Enoch as it is not part of the canon of Scripture. Yet, it is quoted. And many people seem to be fascinated by its contents. I think there are parts that are important information.

No, the book of Enoch is NOT essential information. It was NEVER included in the Bible for several reasons:

1.) Enoch himself did not write it.

2.) The Book of Enoch contradicts our Bible. For example:

Enoch 40:9 "says an angel named Phanuel "is set over the repentance unto hope of those who inherit eternal life." In other words, Phanuel is taking the place of Jesus Christ.

Enoch 67:1-3 says that God appointed angels to build Noah's Ark. Our bible says that God told Noah to build the ark (Genesis 6:140-16)

Enoch 69:6 says that an angel named "Gadreel...led astray Eve." Our Bible says it was Satan (Gen 3).

And many more contradicts... so obviously God wasn't interested to include that false book in his Holy Book.

Pray tells why you are interested in Apocalypse of Weeks nonsense regarding the so-called 7,000 years. It is not accurate anyway.

Stay away from nonbiblical BoE and stick with the completed canon of the Bible.
 
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The book of Enoch, imho, is a very important historical document, even though it is not cannon.

No, its not. Have you ever researched the book itself to see if it lines up with the completed canon of Scripture??
 
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No, the book of Enoch is NOT essential information. It was NEVER included in the Bible for several reasons:

1.) Enoch himself did not write it.

2.) The Book of Enoch contradicts our Bible. For example:

Enoch 40:9 "says an angel named Phanuel "is set over the repentance unto hope of those who inherit eternal life." In other words, Phanuel is taking the place of Jesus Christ.

Enoch 67:1-3 says that God appointed angels to build Noah's Ark. Our bible says that God told Noah to build the ark (Genesis 6:140-16)

Enoch 69:6 says that an angel named "Gadreel...led astray Eve." Our Bible says it was Satan (Gen 3).

And many more contradicts... so obviously God wasn't interested to include that false book in his Holy Book.

Pray tells why you are interested in Apocalypse of Weeks nonsense regarding the so-called 7,000 years. It is not accurate anyway.

Stay away from nonbiblical BoE and stick with the completed canon of the Bible.
As I stated, the book is full of contradictions. It takes discernment. That does not mean throw the whole thing away. After all, Jude did not and that is now part of Scripture.

The Apocalypse of Weeks IS INDEED accurate up to the present Week.
 
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As I stated, the book is full of contradictions.

Of course, it is.

It takes discernment.

It takes discernment by not taking the whole book away. Not smart.

After all, Jude did not and that is now part of Scripture.

What was wrong with the Book of Jude before included it was included in the Bible? Show me the contradictions the book of Jude had. Just because Jude got included in the Bible, it does not mean the book of Enoch should, despite its contradictions.

The Apocalypse of Weeks IS INDEED accurate up to the present Week.

As I said, you better stick with the completed 66 books of the Scripture. Don't get distracted from Scripture by the books written by mystery prophets. Again, the book of Enoch wasn't written by Enoch himself.
 
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Of course, it is.



It takes discernment by not taking the whole book away. Not smart.



What was wrong with the Book of Jude before included it was included in the Bible? Show me the contradictions the book of Jude had. Just because Jude got included in the Bible, it does not mean the book of Enoch should, despite its contradictions.



As I said, you better stick with the completed 66 books of the Scripture. Don't get distracted from Scripture by the books written by mystery prophets. Again, the book of Enoch wasn't written by Enoch himself.
That's your opinion. It is not mine. Neither is it the point of this thread.
 
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That's your opinion. It is not mine. Neither is it the point of this thread.

Regardless, just saying that you are wasting your time studying an unbiblical book that is NOT part of the Bible on which you are trying to build a doctrine on. Bad move. You have been warned so be careful.
 
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"simply dismiss the Book of Enoch as it is not part of the canon of Scripture. Yet, it is quoted. "

Lets see no the book of Enoch was never quoted. What Jude by the sweet sweet holy Spirit said was "But Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, also prophesied about these men, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones,". There are a few really strong reasons why Enoch was not put in the Canon. So when we read about who wrote it "unknown".

Why is it so hard for a God that once said to Sarah "what is to hard for the lord?" That He made sure what we have today is what He wanted and not a bunch of men made the choice?
 
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"simply dismiss the Book of Enoch as it is not part of the canon of Scripture. Yet, it is quoted. "

Lets see no the book of Enoch was never quoted. What Jude by the sweet sweet holy Spirit said was "But Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, also prophesied about these men, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones,". There are a few really strong reasons why Enoch was not put in the Canon. So when we read about who wrote it "unknown".

Why is it so hard for a God that once said to Sarah "what is to hard for the lord?" That He made sure what we have today is what He wanted and not a bunch of men made the choice?
What you said doesn't make any sense. You say he didn't quote and then you say he quoted. Nonsensical
 
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What you said doesn't make any sense. You say he didn't quote and then you say he quoted. Nonsensical
So Enoch never said that?

Do you think you could at least quote a verse from this alleged writing of Enoch that says those words. Was Enoch not the 7th generation from Adam? You can read that in Genesis 5.

The point made is that whoever wrote this book of Enoch after the Babylonian captivity had some source of information they used. They did not receive Holy Spirit revelation. If not they just made it all up. So Jude did not have to quote that particular book, as information would have already been in circulation before that book was written. Both Jude and that unknown author were quoting the same source. Jude was not necessarily quoting the book of Enoch.
 
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So Enoch never said that?

Do you think you could at least quote a verse from this alleged writing of Enoch that says those words. Was Enoch not the 7th generation from Adam? You can read that in Genesis 5.

The point made is that whoever wrote this book of Enoch after the Babylonian captivity had some source of information they used. They did not receive Holy Spirit revelation. If not they just made it all up. So Jude did not have to quote that particular book, as information would have already been in circulation before that book was written. Both Jude and that unknown author were quoting the same source. Jude was not necessarily quoting the book of Enoch.
Then you make Jude to be a liar. And the Holy Spirit also a liar. Nope. I don't agree with you at all.
 
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That's your opinion. It is not mine. Neither is it the point of this thread.

Well, evidently, the so-called book of Enoch is not included in the Canon (for a good reason) so I am in good hands and my warning against building a doctrine on the BoE is valid whether you like it or not. Your doctrine that includes Enoch and Jospheus will end up deadly WRONG! The Lord Judges and I am comfortable with it. :)
 
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Then you make Jude to be a liar. And the Holy Spirit also a liar. Nope. I don't agree with you at all.
You don't agree that those words are in the book of Enoch? You did not quote them.
 
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I'm surprised that there isn't a topic on Enoch's Apocalpyse of Weeks. At least, I can't find one doing a simple search.
I realized that a lot of people simply dismiss the Book of Enoch as it is not part of the canon of Scripture. Yet, it is quoted. And many people seem to be fascinated by its contents. I think there are parts that are important information. But there is a lot that reads like bad biblical fan fiction - Enoch turning into an angel.

The Apocalypse of Weeks is very intriguing. 10 periods of Weeks that divide the entirety of human history. The key is provided in the first week when the author says that Enoch was born in the 7th day of the first week. According to the genealogy of Gen 5, Enoch was born in Year 622 after Creation. That is in the 7th day of the Week if each Week corresponds to 700 years. So 10 Weeks x 700 years is a total of 7000 years of human history.

Now where to start the period. Many people have various ideas. My research has shown that the Year of Creation was exactly 3970 BC. You'll have to see my material as to how I determine that. But based on that all the Weeks have a start and end year in our BC/AD calendar system. And it's fascinating to read what each week contains and find that it's accurate. This means that the yet future Weeks should also be accurate.


English translation by Charles:


Apocalypse of Weeks
1-700 3970-3270 BC

701-1400 3269-2570 BC

1401-2100 2469-1870 BC

2101-2800 1869-1170 BC

2801-3500 1169-470 BC

3501-4200 469 BC-231 AD

4201-4900 232-931 AD

4901-5600 932-1631 AD

5601-6300 1632-2331 AD

6301-7000 2332-3031 AD

Following the Adam-to-the-flood chronology of 2256 years as stated by Josephus, (who states in several places that he was translating from the Hebrew scriptures of his day), it is 4900 years from the birth of Henok to 70AD. Each week would therefore be 490 years. This is likewise the seventy generations foretold in Henok, (or seventy seventies, 70x70=4900).
 
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Following the Adam-to-the-flood chronology of 2256 years as stated by Josephus, (who states in several places that he was translating from the Hebrew scriptures of his day), it is 4900 years from the birth of Henok to 70AD. Each week would therefore be 490 years. This is likewise the seventy generations foretold in Henok, (or seventy seventies, 70x70=4900).
That's incorrect. There is nothing to do with 70 AD. The key to the time period is given right in Week 1. Each Week is 700 years. There is no other option.
 
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That's incorrect. There is nothing to do with 70 AD. The key to the time period is given right in Week 1. Each Week is 700 years. There is no other option.

Moreover the final week would be the 490 years from the second year of Darius 2, (Nothus), that is, 421BC to 70AD. This makes the seventh day of the final week, (seventy years), as foretold in the prophecy, the seventy years from 2BC to 70AD. Read the prophecy again concerning the final day of the tenth week, for these are the things the people were anticipating in first century Yhudah, including also the sevenfold Torah as expounded by the Master in what we now call the Gospel accounts, (when he speaks, seven thunders utter their voices).
 
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Moreover the final week would be the 490 years from the second year of Darius 2, (Nothus), that is, 421BC to 70AD. This makes the seventh day of the final week, (seventy years), as foretold in the prophecy, the seventy years from 2BC to 70AD. Read the prophecy again concerning the final day of the tenth week, for these are the things the people were anticipating in first century Yhudah, including also the sevenfold Torah as expounded by the Master in what we now call the Gospel accounts, (when he speaks, seven thunders utter their voices).
That's absolutely ridiculous and incorrect. Can't be more wrong. The entire apocalypse is the interaction between 3 groups - it's stated very clearly right at the beginning. Each Week needs to be evaluated as to how it fits in with the 3 groups. It is not a Jewish-centric writing as you claim. If you don't understand this FACT, you can't understand this prophecy correctly.
 
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That's absolutely ridiculous and incorrect. Can't be more wrong. The entire apocalypse is the interaction between 3 groups - it's stated very clearly right at the beginning. Each Week needs to be evaluated as to how it fits in with the 3 groups. It is not a Jewish-centric writing as you claim. If you don't understand this FACT, you can't understand this prophecy correctly.

You've never studied or at least read the work of Jozef T. Milik regarding the Aramaic Henok fragments discovered at Qumran? (and regarding your claim that Henok is not a "Jewish-centric writing"?)? There is no excuse for this seeing that his work is now in the public domain.


Moreover, if you had known this, you would have easily refuted the comments from others here in this thread claiming that the Henok quote from the epistle of Yhudah isn't testified in Henok, for it clearly is: and that is before the first century, as per the scholarly dating of the related Qumran fragments.

Ah well, enjoy your all-important paradigm.
 
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