brightlights
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Yes it is, but at least it is controllable through sex education. But that is a discussion for another day.brightlights said:hiv, what a frightening disease
I wasn't actually aksing you to change your belief in God. What I was asking was if common ancestory was supported by the placement of ERV's in chimp and human genomes. We often hear creationists claim that there is NO scientific evidence supporting evolution. ERV's are a counterclaim that there is indeed evidence that supports evolution.brightlights said:well it certainly is thought out in its reasoning, but i cannot turn away from my beliefs so easily.
There are christian scientists that work in the field of evolution and have no problem with it. Evolution makes no statement on the validity of God. However, it does bring in to question some people's interpretation of Genesis. But shouldn't man's interpretation of the Bible match up with what is in God's Creation? Most christians believe that science is able to divine HOW God created and while the Bible tells us WHY God created us. Of course, faith and belief are left to each individual person so don't take my words as commandments, only as advice.wor[l]dly reasoning and sciences change but when i am close to god i feel so amazing. i dont want to compromise that with what seems reasonable at the time, because as you can tell times and reason certainly change. i believe in creation, but i see the validity of theistic evolution.
Most theistic evolutionists here seem to keep the message in clear sight. Since the bible is not a book of science, I would never use its shortcomings in that area as an argument FOR atheism.brightlights said:well i certainly will take your words as advice and i thank you, but for now i want to focus on my relationship with god and not get caught up in the creation/evolution debate. sometimes (and i'm not attacking you or anyone specific) people get so caught up on minor interpretations that they lose sight of the message.
brightlights said:well i certainly will take your words as advice and i thank you, but for now i want to focus on my relationship with god and not get caught up in the creation/evolution debate.
sometimes (and i'm not attacking you or anyone specific) people get so caught up on minor interpretations that they lose sight of the message.
Hi John. I'm here and you're here. Did you just get in from Singapore? To say that you're here tells me NOTHING about where you came from.JohnR7 said:I would not say nothing, your here, I am here. How much more evidence do you need?
The new earth did not happen overnight. It began at the end of the last ice age. It took 7000 years to create.Mistermystery said:Was that what I asked for? I clearly asked for *EVIDENCE* that God "created a new Earth 6000 years ago", or what ever you want your deity to do.
I have never been to Singapore, but I have been to Hong Kong twice.Ishmael Borg said:Hi John. I'm here and you're here. Did you just get in from Singapore? To say that you're here tells me NOTHING about where you came from.
There is enough evidence to support it in a kangroo court. The question is: How relyable and dependable is the evidence?Loudmouth said:We often hear creationists claim that there is NO scientific evidence supporting evolution.
Typical JohnR7 non-argument.JohnR7 said:I have never been to Singapore, but I have been to Hong Kong twice.
If you want to know where you came from, read your Bible.
Typical Borg response. You have it exactly backwards. Man's theory of evolution far to often does not line up with the truth.Ishmael Borg said:Evidence from the real world discounts your interpretation of the bible's account for my origins.
You can take everything to the Bible, to see if it is true or not. If it does not line up with the Bible, then it is not true and sooner or later it will be falsified.Your man-made book doesn't cover man's evolution. I guess that's because it is not a science book.
Typical unsupported JohnR7 garbage. Give us examples of truth, then give us TOE items that don't line up. Or keep your unsubtantiated claims to yourself.JohnR7 said:Typical Borg response. You have it exactly backwards. Man's theory of evolution far to often does not line up with the truth.
Is it true that lies are wrong? The bible says: "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord." And it says: "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie." So I say that delusion is wrong, but the bible says it's wrong, and then says it's right. Hmmm.You can take everything to the Bible, to see if it is true or not. If it does not line up with the Bible, then it is not true and sooner or later it will be falsified.
If they were inspired, they were still filtered through vast numbers of fallible humans before your version was finalized.The Bible is not man made in that it was inspired by God. Man may have penned the words, but they came from God.
I've learned not to put too much effort into deciphering your non-sequiturs.JohnR7 said:Is that real smoke coming out of your ears?
I must say after several trips to dictionary.com and a thorough reading of the original post (I didn't trifle with the rebuttals) you've got me convinced. I came into this forum a creationist and now ... well, I feel like a creationist tired of looking up terms that cloud the issue. I guess I don't understand how genetic drift (a theory based on entropy and congecture) proves that there is no Creator. Yes I understand that if a person whose DNA makeup allowed them to prove resistant to the Virus or to be able to 'fend-off' the attack that their offspring would carry a record of that ability. I agree. My offspring even look like me.Jet Black said:why do the creationists never have anything to say about these things?
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