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Mashley said:
I wasn't saying he was a Satanist. I'm sorry if that's what you understood. The topic that night was Satanism, but they got to talking about violence. I was referring to the violence part. Sorry, if I didn't make that clear.

No troubles bubbles, just wanted to make sure that they weren't potraying Eminem as a satanist. I hope my original post didn't come off as rash. :)

I think that Eminem is a good lyricist because of his creativity with rhymes and rhyme schemes. It isn't difficult to be offensive or controversial, but displaying a creative mind through creative rhymes is good to me.
 
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Meaningless and generic polysyllabic rhyming, no matter how complex it is, simply isn't good, IMO. At times Eminem has something to say, but his rhyming isn't really that great- the neo-Cali style makes Eminem sound like a generic rapper (not that I like said style, but it very similar to Em's and very prolific).
 
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Okay, I get what you guys are saying about expressing your emotions and stuff. I'm just not sure that Marilyn Manson and Eminem are the greatest role models to have. Couldn't there be a different person who expresses their feelings? Maybe it's just the fact that cussing bothers me. I don't know. Anyways, thanks for all the opinions. I understand your viewpoints, their just not mine.
 
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blackwasp said:
No troubles bubbles, just wanted to make sure that they weren't potraying Eminem as a satanist. I hope my original post didn't come off as rash. :)

I think that Eminem is a good lyricist because of his creativity with rhymes and rhyme schemes. It isn't difficult to be offensive or controversial, but displaying a creative mind through creative rhymes is good to me.

Naw, I don't think they were portraying him as a Satanist. They were just focusing on the violence. I agree with the creativity thing, but I guess that's just not the type of stuff I like to listen to.

I like your little saying, "No troubles bubbles." :)
 
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I'm not understanding why everybodyhas a problem with swearing . People use it every day. Christians swear every day. If Christians where being true and honest I guess some Christian music would even have swearing in. But if a Christian artist was to swear everybody would judge them and say they weren't a Christian for swearing. :)
 
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I am not suprised to see many supporting Eminem, to be honest.

Biblically speaking, however, we are to discern between what is right, and what is wrong.

Eminems lyrics promote sin, and therefore Biblically, Eminem's lyrics are to be avoided. One cannot justify such lyrics, which include the promotion of drugs, sex, among other things.

God bless,
Justin
 
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TheHumanGenomeProject said:
Eminem is a good lyricist (with a terrible flow, but anyway), but he fell off, and he's very rich because of it, and most of us would do the same thing.

"I've got so many ways to diss you that I'm playful with you
I will let a razor slit you 'til they have to staple stitch you
And everybody in this... place will miss you if you
Try to turn my facial tissue into a racial issue"

^ But he can be ridiculously nice when he wants to be.

And SlimShadyJB, nobody is attacking rap- only Eminem. People can hate Eminem without hating rap.

PS. Good luck with the rap career.

If one is debating whether or not Eminem's music is acceptable to listen to, than we must consider scripture.

Eminem has talent, indeed he does - but is this talent enough to justify the messages?

God bless,
Justin
 
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He's extremely talented at what he does, I'll tell ya that. I don't think that there is much I agree with him on (First off, he's anti-Bush! Lol) ... But I think that there is some good in him from. I'm not gonna write him off as "evil" or "satanic" I'm wiser than that. I must admit that I actually enjoyed (with the edited verson) his "Toy Soldiers" song. It was pretty moving. I think that there is hope for him still. Isn't that what Christianity is about? Bringing the good news to everyone? :D
 
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mycatspice said:
He's extremely talented at what he does, I'll tell ya that. I don't think that there is much I agree with him on (First off, he's anti-Bush! Lol) ... But I think that there is some good in him from. I'm not gonna write him off as "evil" or "satanic" I'm wiser than that. I must admit that I actually enjoyed (with the edited verson) his "Toy Soldiers" song. It was pretty moving. I think that there is hope for him still. Isn't that what Christianity is about? Bringing the good news to everyone? :D

Christianity is truly about bringing the good news to everyone. And, in keeping this in mind, one who follows God and His Word to every extreme is more prepared to witness to others.

That said, Eminem himself is far from evil or satanic. Clearly labelling him as such would be wrong. However, we are to abstain from evil - we are to make the right decisions regarding influences in our lives, music being one of them.

Now, can one pick and choose what songs to listen to, pertaining to messages? I don't see why not. But, when you like one song by a particular musician, it is oh so easy to start listening to others.

God bless,
Justin
 
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Freak4Jesus4Ever said:
Heh...there isn't a greater one for me. [Role model that is] He's for everthing I am, and against everything I am. Maybe not you....but me. :)

Is Enimen for Jesus? If yes, than I've missed something.

If no (keeping in mind that his lyrics/lifestyle would contradict what a Christian is for), than I am curious as to what you and Eminem have alike.

God bless,
Justin
 
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Mashley said:
I was watching a show on tv last night. I think it was called "They Sold Their Souls For Rock and Roll". Anyways, they were talking about the violence and Satanism in music and how music influences. One of the artists they talked about was Eminem. They quoted some of his lyrics. I looked up some more of them today on the internet. The words are awful! The violence and sex is bad enough, but he cusses all the time! How can people listen to that?
I will agree that some of his lyrics are terrible, and sometimes hard to listen to, but he is a brillant lyricist. He can string together lyrics tremendously. I don't think he's a satanist. I think he grew up in a very rough neibhorhood, where cussing like he does is part of everyday life. Not offensive where he came from. He's not any more offensive than any other rapper, yet he's unfairly single out.
 
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TheHumanGenomeProject said:
Not at all. I'm just telling you champ, this is secular music. I think /f201 will lead you to the Christian music forum.

Of course it's secular music, but I don't see why you need to tell me this?

If I have done something wrong, than please let me know. Otherwise, I'll note that this is Secular Music, as I clicked on Secular Music to get to this thread, and move on.

Thanks!

God bless
 
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