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Robbie_James_Francis
May all beings have happiness and its causes
Not at all. Half the people I know, of all ages, are determined not to die on this grey and miserable Isle. Then again, hating Britain is one of Britain's favourite pass-times, along with queueing and binge drinking...I gather in other countries there's this weird thing called 'patriotism'? 
But seriously, I don't get why there should be any moral requirement to feel a special connection to "your" nation. If you do, great, that surely helps you find a meaningful place in the otherwise transient and meaningless flux of existence. If not, so what? As long as you've got something--family, friends, tennis, International Socialism, charity work, Jesus--for your own good to keep you occupied and motivated.
But seriously, I don't get why there should be any moral requirement to feel a special connection to "your" nation. If you do, great, that surely helps you find a meaningful place in the otherwise transient and meaningless flux of existence. If not, so what? As long as you've got something--family, friends, tennis, International Socialism, charity work, Jesus--for your own good to keep you occupied and motivated.
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PantsMcFist
Trying to get his head back under the clouds
Not at all. Mind you, I think nationalism is silly and petty, so what do I know. I don't intend to live in God forsaken North America longer than I have to. I'd like to live somewhere where the culture is a bit more collectively oriented. My wife is Ukrainian, so maybe Eastern Europe somewhere, teaching in a university.
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Yes, I plan on moving to a more progressive country when my children are grown. Not sure where yet, still in the dreaming, pre-planning stage.
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PantsMcFist
Trying to get his head back under the clouds
Depending on the cultural flavor you want, I'd recommend New Zealand. My sister and brother-in-law are there now. The cost of living is on the high side, but it's a very socially progressive country that feels like one big small town - ie, not a lot happens in the way we know 'news'. Instead of murders and terror threats, you hear about some guy's lost dog being found. People are more giving as well. When my sister and her husband were first touring the island, looking for a place to live, and looking for transportation, some random people they had never met let them use their car for a week to find work and an apartment. To me that's pretty exceptional.
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