Emergent Confusion

[cavell]

Emergent Confusion
Published story by TBC Staff - EN
[ http://www.thebereancall.org/node/5543 ]


[TBC: Much like other movements (Communism, Humanism, etc.), the
Emergent Church has issued a new book with their own manifesto. Here is
an excerpt.]

"I am a Christian today because of a Hindu meditation master. She
taught me some things that Christians had not. She taught me to
meditate, to sit in silence and openness in the presence of God.... I
believe that all people are children of God."

("Emergent Manifesto of Hope," Tony Jones and Doug Pagitt, ed.,
Emersion, 2007, p.45.)

While missionary C.T. Studd wrote about his desire to run a rescue
station "within a yard of hell," "emergent" Christians do not to seek
to deliver "people from the jaws of hell." To the contrary, their goal
is "to be in relationship with people who in many ways are different"
(Ibid, p. 35).

 

[Voegelin]

Wikipedia is funny on this. It says "Critics of the movement are often conservative evangelical theologians and pastors."

It's those conservative evangelicals again.

As if Catholics, Russian Orthodox and many others would have no theological dispute with it in the slightest.

 

[Hisfirebrand]

Wikipedia is funny on this. It says "Critics of the movement are often conservative evangelical theologians and pastors."

It's those conservative evangelicals again.

As if Catholics, Russian Orthodox and many others would have no theological dispute with it in the slightest.

Perhaps that's because RCC is considered to be a more mystical religion, which some perceive as employing the same methods as the emergent church.

Evangelicalism generally speaking, is more "open" to salvation within its denominational venues, while the RCC believes that they are the only valid religion. The differences between the two in belief and practice keep them in contradictory camps which those who are exposing the emergent church probably feel that Catholicism could probably care less about christianity's problems with the emergent church, as they see evidence of same within the RCC --- just my opinion of course

 

[Voegelin]

Perhaps that's because RCC is considered to be a more mystical religion, which some perceive as employing the same methods as the emergent church.

I suppose some might percieve that. But even non-Catholics like me who haven't studied the catchism but have glanced at it know the emergent church and Catholicism are not compatable in the slightest.

The RCC is far more nuanced than believing "they are the only valid religion". They acknowledge Protestant baptism for instance.

The Wiki comment is just the usual political Wiki bias against conservative evangelical Christians. See it all the time on Wiki. Because Protestants are fragmented and no specific Protestant denomination is mentioned, Wiki can get away with it. Had Catholics been included in the aside, heavy weight theologians would have come out. Why exactly Catholicism is opposed to the emergent church would have been make clear. That is something whoever wrote that article does not want aired.

 

[cavell]

What is this Wiki.......? Much assurance seems to be placed upon it?

My faith rests in Jesus blood and righteousness. I dare not trust the sweetest frame, but wholly lean on Jesus Name'

On Christ the solid rock I stand, All other ground is sinking sand'

In His Love

 

[Hisfirebrand]

I suppose some might percieve that. But even non-Catholics like me who haven't studied the catchism but have glanced at it know the emergent church and Catholicism are not compatable in the slightest.

The RCC is far more nuanced than believing "they are the only valid religion". They acknowledge Protestant baptism for instance.

The Wiki comment is just the usual political Wiki bias against conservative evangelical Christians. See it all the time on Wiki. Because Protestants are fragmented and no specific Protestant denomination is mentioned, Wiki can get away with it. Had Catholics been included in the aside, heavy weight theologians would have come out. Why exactly Catholicism is opposed to the emergent church would have been make clear. That is something whoever wrote that article does not want aired.

I don't think wikipedia is that credible when it comes to some topics. And perhaps the Catholic church would have some valid points against the emergent church on a surface level - but Catholicism embraces mysticism to a great degree, not to mention meditative and repetitive prayers, and is also steeped in liturgy. These are all forms of mystic religion, some of which is part of the emergent church. There are other facets of the emergent church, but the mystic side is really appealing to people and drawing them in.

 

[Blank123]

What is this Wiki.......? Much assurance seems to be placed upon it?

Wikipedia. for some reason a lot of people seem to think its infallible but i certainly don't. anyone can edit it to say whatever they want so you're likely to end up with something convoluted and unreliable so people really should take it with a grain of salt.

Wikipedia is funny on this. It says "Critics of the movement are often conservative evangelical theologians and pastors."

It's those conservative evangelicals again.

As if Catholics, Russian Orthodox and many others would have no theological dispute with it in the slightest.

in my research i've found the EC actually tries to reach out to the more mystical groups like the roman catholic and eastern orthodox churches and tries to include them. Generally it is just those who hold to the doctrine of absolute truth (Christ alone, sola scriptura, sola fide, etc...) they reject outright which becomes a mutual thing because of their changing doctrines and ideals to suit whoever wants to join those that hold to absolute truth simply could not tolerate it.

 

[cavell]

Thanks for your help there "Little-Tigress"

May His Blessing rest upon your lIfe. I feel it alteady does.