"Embedded Age" Requires Fake Fossils

[AV1611VET]

So even if go to Hawaii and watch lava solidify in to brand new rocks, you are saying that those rocks are old? By what measure?

Give my regards to Don Ho.

As you have described it before, embedded age is the inclusion of daughter isotopes to give rocks the appearance of being old when they are dated with radiometric methods.

No, I have never described it like that.

I always describe embedded age in three words: maturity without history.

I take it that you are running away from those previous positions?

I don't doubt that you do, seeing as how you try so hard to put words in my mouth.

I've seen you do it with others too.

I guess we all have our style of debating.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And again, the scientists at BioLogos have a good answer that AV should heed. When science seems to disagree with scripture it is probably ones interpretation that you are interpreting that scripture incorrectly. If your God exists then science is his work too. Science would be God's work that we can observe and interpret today. It can tell us if a particular verse is being interpreted correctly or not:

http://biologos.org/questions/scientific-and-scriptural-truth

At BioLogos it seems that they have figured out to have their cake and eat it too.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Give my regards to Don Ho.


No, I have never described it like that.

I always describe embedded age in three words: maturity without history.


I don't doubt that you do, seeing as how you try so hard to put words in my mouth.

I've seen you do it with others too.

I guess we all have our style of debating.

It does not matter how you describe it, it still leads to a deceitful God and that seems rather blasphemous to me.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, we aren't. We will continue to show how your claims of embedded age make God into a deceiver.

Suit yourself.

But if you need to misquote me so much, and if you need me to put words in my mouth to do it, I'd say you're having a problem showing how my claims of embedded age make God into a deceiver.

The Arab phone seems to be your tool of choice to wrest what others say to your advantage, and discussing things with you is an exercise in "I didn't say that."

 

[AV1611VET]

And again, the scientists at BioLogos have a good answer that AV should heed.

BioLogos can take a hike.

How about you deal with my claims on your own, and not hide behind someone else's apron strings.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Suit yourself.

But if you need to misquote me so much, and if you need me to put words in my mouth to do it, I'd say you're having a problem showing how my claims of embedded age make God into a deceiver.

The Arab phone seems to be your tool of choice to wrest what others say to your advantage, and discussing things with you is an exercise in "I didn't say that."

Seriously? You can't understand that all of geology refuting the Flood, all of physics, biology, and geology telling us that the Adam and Eve story is just that are not cases of a your personal version of God being deceitful? It seems that other Christians have no problem with this and that is why they accept science. I do not know how I could show you what you are implying with your beliefs;

 

[Subduction Zone]

BioLogos can take a hike.

How about you deal with my claims on your own, and not hide behind someone else's apron strings.

I have, I was merely showing you that you did not have to drop your Christian beliefs to accept reality. I was trying to help you not to harm you.

 

[AV1611VET]

It does not matter how you describe it, it still leads to a deceitful God and that seems rather blasphemous to me.

Wow -- just wow.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Wow -- just wow.

I know, it is amazing that you do not see how truly blasphemous you are in making a false idol of the Bible, and even after you were warned not to.

 

[Loudmouth]

Suit yourself.

But if you need to misquote me so much, and if you need me to put words in my mouth to do it, I'd say you're having a problem showing how my claims of embedded age make God into a deceiver.

The Arab phone seems to be your tool of choice to wrest what others say to your advantage, and discussing things with you is an exercise in "I didn't say that."

I have directly quoted you. I have shown how your claims of embedded age make God into a deceiver.

 

[AV1611VET]

Seriously? You can't understand that all of geology refuting the Flood, all of physics, biology, and geology telling us that the Adam and Eve story is just that are not cases of a your personal version of God being deceitful?

I think I can understand that better than you can understand my claims.

It seems that other Christians have no problem with this and that is why they accept science.

Good for other Christians.

Are you one of them?

Or are you just hiding behind them?

I do not know how I could show you what you are implying with your beliefs;

You won't do it with blasphemy and the Arab phone -- I promise you.

 

[Loudmouth]

Give my regards to Don Ho.

Yet another post where you run away from the facts.

No, I have never described it like that.

If I go back to previous threads and find where you have made this claim, will you acknowledge it?

I always describe embedded age in three words: maturity without history.

In the case of radioactive dating, you have described it as including daughter isotopes in the rocks.

If this is not what you are claiming, then you have a much more serious problem. You have no explanation for the daughter isotopes found in the rocks other than a real history that is billions of years.

 

[AV1611VET]

I have, I was merely showing you that you did not have to drop your Christian beliefs to accept reality. I was trying to help you not to harm you.

Don't Sanballat me.

It won't work.

 

[AV1611VET]

I know, it is amazing that you do not see how truly blasphemous you are in making a false idol of the Bible, and even after you were warned not to.

I suppose only I could get and atheist and agnostic worried about someone blaspheming God, eh?

 

[AV1611VET]

I have directly quoted you.

And I am Napoleon.

I have shown how your claims of embedded age make God into a deceiver.

I'm sure you think you have.

Now your job gets much tougher:

Convince me to do the same.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Don't Sanballat me.

It won't work.

You know that I would never do that.

 

[Loudmouth]

I'm sure you think you have.

Now your job gets much tougher:

Convince me to do the same.

I shouldn't have to convince anyone to deal with facts and reality. Your refusal to deal with these problems only demonstrates that I am right.

 

[RickG]

I know, it is amazing that you do not see how truly blasphemous you are in making a false idol of the Bible, and even after you were warned not to.

The part I don't understand is why one feels the need distort and/or misrepresent well understood science to support ones religious beliefs. To me that implies insecurity in ones faith.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yet another post where you run away from the facts.

You're right.

My mistake.

He died in 2007.

If I go back to previous threads and find where you have made this claim, will you acknowledge it?

You're good at putting words in other peoples' mouths.

I'll pass.

In the case of radioactive dating, you have described it as including daughter isotopes in the rocks.

And I am Napoleon.

If this is not what you are claiming, then you have a much more serious problem.

We all do, don't we?

You have no explanation for the daughter isotopes found in the rocks other than a real history that is billions of years.

Ain't that a gas?

 

[AV1611VET]

I shouldn't have to convince anyone to deal with facts and reality.

I shouldn't either, if I used your style.

Your refusal to deal with these problems only demonstrates that I am right.

Paper victories only look good on paper.