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"Embedded Age" Requires Fake Fossils

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RickG

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That seems to assume that the rays that contain the info, and, of course, unfold in time here represent the time at source. Remember we see the light, in this case, the rays...here!
Really? How do you think gamma-ray spectroscopy works? Never mind, I know you don't have a clue.
 
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We do not observe the man now, or see Him make that wine..etc. in no sick way can that be taken to mean that He did not live. That is debating???
Yeah, keep making it up as you go along.

What you are essentially saying is that we can't identify artifacts of Jesus' time because they are actual physical objects, while we can say Jesus was a real person because the only thing we know about him was written more than a generation after his death by people who were not even alive during Jesus' time, much less knew him.
 
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You are ignoring that the 169,000 light year figure is a distance with respect to the amount of time it takes light to travel that far. Time is a calculation, not a figment of your imagination when you want it to be there or when you don't want it to be there.

So you don't understand nuclearsynthesis. What you described supports my position, not yours. You are showing a time frame being described which you say doesn't exist. Wow! Therefore, it exists when you want too and does not exist when you don't want it to.
 
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Actually, noting that we now don't see the folks in Jesus day still is simple sanity.

Including Jesus? You said it, not me.
 
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So then, God's priority places your Oldsmobile ahead of children suffering and starving? Is this the god you worship?
 
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No, it doesn't. Plasma redshift and all inelastic scattering produces a different amount of redshift at different wavelengths. That is not what is seen with cosmological redshift where light is redshifted the same at all wavelengths.

Also, plasma redshift would produce an opaque universe which we don't have.
 
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Unless time existed at the star (?) then it was not 169,000 years ago at all.The way you get that distance is by including time and distance in a parallax measure!

The way we get the measurement is the change in the supernova over time. In order for that to occur, time has to be moving at the supernova. If there were no time then photons could not have moved outwards and lit the rings around the supernova.
 
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I count the discovery of penicillin and its production and availability as fighting evil. Therefore, you are wrong here.
I count the discovery of penicillin and its production and availability as fighting bacteria. Therefore, you are wrong here.
 
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I'll take the words of plasma physicists who actually did the experiments over a guy on the internet who only has a loudmouth.

"Plasma redshift explains the solar redshifts, the redshifts of the galactic corona, the cosmological redshifts, the cosmic microwave background, and the X-ray background. The plasma redshift explains the observed magnitude-redshift relation for supernovae SNe Ia without the big bang, dark matter, or dark energy. There is no cosmic time dilation. The universe is not expanding...This means that there is no need for Einstein's Lambda term. The universe is quasi-static, infinite, and everlasting."

"The plasma redshift, which follows from exact evaluation of photons interaction with hot sparse electron plasma, leads to a quasi-static, infinite, and ever lasting universe. It does not need big bang, dark energy, or dark matter for describing the observations. It predicts intrinsic redshifts of galaxies consistent with what is observed."

arXiv:astro-ph/0401420
arXiv:astro-ph/0602500v1
 
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So then, God's priority places your Oldsmobile ahead of children suffering and starving? Is this the god you worship?
Are you forgetting that inside that car was a sick woman and a man the Lord was planning to use on behalf of hundreds of unborn children destined to perish inside abortion clinics? God is a little bit wiser than you or me and a little bit older than even Methuselah.
 
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Well you certainly think highly of yourself.
 
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Yes, I must have "forgot" that. Does he also help baseball teams win games?
 
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