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Elon Musk: "Time Does NOT Exist! James Webb Telescope Proves Us Wrong!"

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They'd be the same age. But we'd all be older.

Here's a curly one. Ifyou have a twin brother and he has a ground floor apartment then get one on the second floor. Because the earth is spinning and you'll be further from the centre, you'll be travelling faster than him so will age slower.
Maybe by a fraction of a nanosecond over the course of an entire lifetime maybe, the difference might not even be measurable by us it would be so small, but when we are talking about near the speeds of light, that's when the difference becomes actually measurable, to significantly measurable, etc.

Strong gravitational pulls work the same way, only becomes measurable when your really, really close to a very, very strong one, but gravitational forces, or g's, are also present in acceleration also, but we'd probably be dead past so many g's, etc. Limitations of the physical, etc.

Infinite mass and all of that also, etc.
 
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I would like to know the effect that acceleration and gravity has on time, and not just know about going faster through space-time and what effect(s) that is said to have on it, etc?

When it's still sub-light, but is getting close to the speed of light, etc.

If time slows down or goes slower for you at near the speeds of light, then would your vessel, or the pocket you are in slow down also, therefore slowing down your whole entire travel through space-time, etc?

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Increased gravity or increased velocity slows down time... so if you travel in a spaceship that's going close to the speed of light the trip would be shorter from your perspective compared to the people you left behind.
 
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Increased gravity or increased velocity slows down time... so if you travel in a spaceship that's going close to the speed of light the trip would be shorter from your perspective compared to the people you left behind.
Does it just slow down you, or your ships travel through space-time?
 
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Does it just slow down you, or your ships travel through space-time?
It doesn't move slower, it's just that time slows down for the objects moving at a relatively higher speed.
 
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It doesn't move slower, it's just that time slows down for the objects moving at a relatively higher speed.
Still not completely understanding, but I probably need to learn some more, or do some more research, so I'll let it go for now.

God Bless.
 
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Will someone ever come up with a theory measuring the time that all elements are drawn as one only to explode out into the universe to do it all over again?
As all of the matter in the universe is expanding outward from its' collective gravitational concentration; what would cause the matter to change direction? What would cause the elctromagnetic radiation to change direction?
 
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As all of the matter in the universe is expanding outward from its' collective gravitational concentration; what would cause the matter to change direction? What would cause the elctromagnetic radiation to change direction?

It's not really a "gravitational concentration", but a "hot dense state". Rocky's question doesn't really make any sense anyway.
 
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It's not really a "gravitational concentration", but a "hot dense state".
I'll bring that expression down to Earth.

Gravity continues to concentrate on Earth; as each new meteorite, captured by Earth's gravity, brings more gravity, with the meteorite's mass, to the Earth's gravitational concentration.
 
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I'll bring that expression down to Earth.

Gravity continues to concentrate on Earth; as each new meteorite, captured by Earth's gravity, brings more gravity, with the meteorite's mass, to the Earth's gravitational concentration.

Mass concentrates in it's own gravitational field. The mass creates gravitational attraction. (That's a bit better phrasing.) But none of this has to do with Rocky's claim. (And nothing will. That claim makes no sense.)
 
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Increased gravity or increased velocity slows down time... so if you travel in a spaceship that's going close to the speed of light the trip would be shorter from your perspective compared to the people you left behind.
Mathematically speaking only, if you could travel 100,000 times the speed of light, and you had a theoretical telephone and you asked the people who you left behind to call you in 2 years, would you recieve the call immediately after departing?
 
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Mathematically speaking only, if you could travel 100,000 times the speed of light, and you had a theoretical telephone and you asked the people who you left behind to call you in 2 years, would you recieve the call immediately after departing?
Well you can't go faster than the speed of light and the logistics of how the message is getting to you might be an issue... but yeah, you'd get it straight away... and they would be speaking very quickly because time was slower in your frame of reference.
 
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Still not completely understanding, but I probably need to learn some more, or do some more research, so I'll let it go for now.

God Bless.
Don't feel discouraged, it's a very alien concept to our day to day experience with how time and movement work.
 
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Don't feel discouraged, it's a very alien concept to our day to day experience with how time and movement work.
Wow! Thank you for that quality thought! And may I add... “Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe- A spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” -Albert Einstein
 
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I was going to get to that, but the video doesn't make it easy to find the alleged claim of the title. I mostly wanted to see how dumb Musk's statement was. He is, after all, the guy that thought he could revolutionize ground transport by building vacuum tubes for trains. Gobsmackingly dumb idea that was.
It wasn’t even new. The LDPR ran for a decade in London as a mail despatch service that carried passengers as a novelty ride. What actually did for it, was the time it took to man handle mail sacks from street level to tube and back, lost the saving in time compared to carriage.
 
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Velocity is relative between two objects, and all objects aren't going to have zero velocity relative to each other. If there were only two objects in the entire universe, they would be pulled toward each other due to gravity.
What if they were causally separate?
 
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I would like to know the effect that acceleration and gravity has on time, and not just know about going faster through space-time and what effect(s) that is said to have on it, etc?

When it's still sub-light, but is getting close to the speed of light, etc.

If time slows down or goes slower for you at near the speeds of light, then would your vessel, or the pocket you are in slow down also, therefore slowing down your whole entire travel through space-time, etc?

God Bless!
Everything in your frame is affected by the dilation in the same way. Other frames will have different relative dilation effects.

Which is nice.
 
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Everything in your frame is affected by the dilation in the same way. Other frames will have different relative dilation effects.

Which is nice.
I'll do some more research.

Thanks Guys!

Gnite.

God Bless.
 
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Now you're getting it. Yet the universe is expanding, which is in opposition to its' collective gravity.

Getting what? Someone's flawed interpretation of physical cosmology?
 
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