Elijah Comes First

[The Liturgist]

I'm hoping on Elijah. I suspect the HURD has been complete in heaven for a long time, and the Liturgist will be delighted.

No, I’d be annoyed, because its complete enough for my purposes, and there are several other OSes presently incomplete I’d rather use, like Haiku…

 

[jonojim1337]

Sorry I’m not bothered by B-movies at all.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I've used Redhat Fedora Linux for some years, and this was typed on a Linux computer.

I'm just a user, with no formal training and until I saw your post i had no idea what GNU HURD was. I'd heard of GNU, but the idea of a computer HURD which may or may not stampede over the finish line before Elijah returns is something I'll have to leave to far more educated IT people like the Liturgist.

If Elijah comes first, GNU HURD will be the least of our worries. Meanwhile what is the Liturgist going to do all day with no computers in heaven?

And no one to debate with!!!

 

[The Liturgist]

Still using Fedora, but fed up with systemd and Gnome and Wayland

Systemd: proudly encouraging migrations to FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, DragonFlyBSD and Illumos since 2010

 

[The Liturgist]

And no one to debate with!!!

Indeed, but, believe it or not, I actually prefer interesting discussions on the liturgy. Any time someone wishes to get into the weeds with me on exploring the history of the Anaphora of St. James, or St. Mark, or the Twelve Apostles, or help me write festal services for St. Abanoub the Martyr, who is sadly only liturgically commemorated in the Coptic church, being a Coptic youth who received a crown of martyrdom during the DIocletian Persecution, but who absolutely deserves a feast day in the Western, Byzantine and Syriac Rites, and for that matter, a few other translations of saints; also surprisingly, a lot of Eastern Orthodox saints only have Troparia and Kontakia, not full canons or propers for vespers; setting these up is relatively easy since the General Menaion like the Common for different kinds of saints in the Roman Rite provides a template (most liturgical rites have a default form for different types of feast days which can be used in the absence of a dedicated service or used as the basis for composing such a service)

 

[chevyontheriver]

Systemd: proudly encouraging migrations to FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, DragonFlyBSD and Illumos since 2010

I have been seriously looking at the BSDs. If they had a ‘live’ USB installer I could find I’d have done it already. I’d probably find it more like the old old Red Hat than those systemd junk. Don’t get me started on Gnome. And my oldest grandson is fascinated by xscreensaver, which requires the X windowing system that Fedora is dumping for Wayland. So no xscreensaver for Fedora using Gnome any more. Mate still uses x windows but the writing is on the wall. Mate for now but Fedora is losing me.

Oh well. Linux was my second OS after starting with Finder 4.5 in the old Mac OS. OSX was my third OS and Windows my fourth. I only have a laptop running Windows because of work, often setting it up for remote access. The remote engineers mostly couldn’t figure out how to navigate a desktop that wasn’t Windows 10.

We had Vespers last night at church, something they are doing for the Sundays of Advent. I said I would be there next week. The deacon in charge said “God willing, He may return before then.” I think many of us are awaiting Elijah. It’s not solely an academic interest. Praying we can be faithful until that day.

 

[contratodo]

Scripture says, in the twinkling of an eye. No second chances, your name is either in the book as one washed white in the blood of the Lamb, or it is not. Why did John tell us to prepare, why are we to make sure that we are like the wise virgins, dressed and ready, with oil in our lamps, to meet our Lord?

So you must believe that Revelation 11 is very figurative. I don't say it has anything to do with second chances, just that it is real, rather literal not figurative, such that the devil has little option but to try and hide and mask the fact when those two prophets arrive.

The lake of fire is real, as you allude to, indeed some will go straight to it when they 'wake up' from death. But it is not some outerspace place or some other dimension. The wicked shall be turned into hell and all the nations that forget God. Psalm 9:17. The two prophets do the initial kindling of the lake of fire, literally, they will show and demonstrate that the Messiah also will literally breath divine fire.
And in that manner must anyone who hurts them be killed Revelation 11:5, the beast and false prophet indeed hurt them and therefore must be killed by the fire they start, and we know that the beast and false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire Revelation 19:20, these passages must both be true, and therefore also we clearly see that indeed it is the prophets that first kindle the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the result of this current world destroyed by divine fire. Started by the two prophets then the Messiah and then the Father sends down the final fire that destroys the sky land and sea Revelation 20:9- 21:1 2 Peter 3:8-12

 

[Basil the Great]

I had a friend many years ago tell me that the Elijah prophecy has been fullfilled, since John the Baptist came with the spirit and power of Elijah. He based his claim on Luke 1:17. However, Malachi did not say that God would send a man with the spirit and power of Elijah, did he? No, Malachi said that God would send Elijah. Hence, we appear to have a mystery here.