Electro-Magnetic Pulse/Mass Coronal Ejection

[William67]

As Didaskalos mentioned in the other thread, EMP/MCE are the reasons why many people prep.

An EMP is a wave of magnetic energy created by a nuclear detonation, a mass coronal ejection, or a HEMP device. As the pulse encounters a conductive material, such as the circuitry in electronics, it generate an electrical current with can damage or destroy the device.

Nuclear EMP is created by a nuclear explosion. An enemy nation or terrorist group could detonate a bomb at high altitude, such as 20 miles, and it would destroy most electronic devices in the US and parts of Canada.

A Mass Coronal Ejection is when a large storm on the surface of the sun blows off a large amount of stellar material. This material, when it comes in contact with Earths magnetic field and radiation belts, is channeled toward the poles. This can also generate a magnetic pulse. Back in the 19th century a large MCE hit the Earth and destroyed the only electrical system in operation back them. The telegraph. The telegraph wires literally ignited.

HEMP stands for High Energy Magnetic Pulse. The US and Russia have HEMP weapons. These devices operate by using an electrically charged set of coils surrounding a sequentially fired series of high explosive charges. When the charges detonate, it generates an magnetic pulse by "pushing" the current in the coils.

The best way to protect delicate emergency electrical equipment is by building a Faraday cage.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

I kind of wonder if Canneto di Caronia was somebody's guinea pig for EMP weapons. I did hear through an inside source that a HEMP weapon was accidentally triggered near a populated area, though it was never admitted publicly; I don't know where. Saving data to optical disc is EMP-proof, though it won't be worth much if there aren't any computers left to read it.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Excellent stuff!
If you want a quick and engaging view of an EMP, read the book "One Second After".
This book displays in vivid detail what life would be like after an EMP evevnt.

From wiki:

"The contiguous United States has, in an instant, been thrown back into the 19th century. However, the narration in the book points out that 21st century people are not at all equipped to live under 19th century conditions. Later on, Matherson remarks that the survivors have the technology of the early 16th century."

This is my argument for prepping in all areas. How would anyone survive if they were suddenly thrust back into the year 1880?
In 1880 prepping was a lifestyle. You did it or you and your family starved. You did it because the scriptures admonished you to do it. You were counted as worse than an infidel if you did not.I guess none of the Christians back then had any faith because it was just assumed by everyone that you had to prep, not only for the known future (such as winter and spring) but also for unforeseen events such as a dearth, calamities, and war. Back then ALL Christians (and non-Christians) prepped as a matter of course. There was no twisting anyone's arm and debating anyone at length to try to convince them to prep. I am constantly amazed at the arguments Christians put up against prepping, especially in view of the fact that the faithful prepped for over 5800 years prior to our century. Were they all "faithless" and "nonspiritual?" I do not think so.

But I suspect if any enemy wanted to invade America, the first step in their plan would be to cast two EMPs. One over the east coast, and one over the west coast. Also, if a terroist group in the ilk of ISIS or AL Qaeda wanted to do real permanent harm to the USA... and EMP would be the way to go.
Today the only thing standing between this attack is a delivery weapon. North Korea and Iran would be delighted to supply the bomb... maybe even Pakistan or Russia.

 

[Fireinfolding]

You can use a microwave as a faraday cage to save your tablets, phones and any other small electronics, it acts as one as far as I understand. But even if you could save those type of things (like a phone for instance) its not like you can call someone else because chances are no one else did that and so there is no one left to call.

People are buying those older model millitary blazers that are EMP proof, but again even if you did that, and one went off, where are you even going to go with all the modern cars, and trucks which have just stopped working on the streets themselves?

You cant plan when something like that could occur and where you will be at the time.

This was one of the things I have thought of, picked it up looked at it and put it back down, but have tried to focus on non electric purchases since they dont harden these things anymore.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I think we would plan on placing some small solar panels in the FC dedicated to charging batteries and other devices like our hand held ham radios, our solar powered radio, and our hand crank radio. I am not up on the tech, but I think GPS devices would still work in a post EMP world.. I think they run off satellite data??? Someone correct me.
I suspect one of the first things up and running after and EMP will be the emergency broadcast system. Of course you would have to have equipment that survived. Also things like blood pressure and blood sugar devices would be needed. They would need to be protected. If you owned a pre-1970s vehicle that did not have the electronic devices... just a good old solenoid, distributor, and starter motor... you might be able to bring it back to life if you had those few electronic devices stored away in a cage.
Just some thoughts....

 

[William67]

Ok, some things people need to understand about Faraday cages. Simply going to the hardware store and buying some "window screen" may not work. I was actually at a hardware store when a woman asked for some "window screen". The guy helping her showed her some rolls of screen. She asked, "And I can build a Faraday cage with this?" He said, "I'm pretty sure you can". He was showing her non-metallic screen. Always buy metal screen.

Also, while you can use something like chicken wire or hog wire to create a Faraday cage, it will not offer the same protection as a metal screen or, better still, a solid metal cage. Also, the insulation used in the cage should not burn easily. When there is electrical current, there is resistance and heat. So, I wouldn't suggest paper or cardboard. Rubber will do, but ceramic/glass is better.

Older cars and trucks do better, especially those without a computer. I know they are old, but fix them up and call them a classic. lol I have a full wiring kit and alternator in a small Faraday cage inside the tool box on my truck. Under the back seat, I have another cage with some hand-held radios. I would also suggest anyone interested in survival get their amateur radio license.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I never thought of the microwave as a Faraday cage... makes sense. Our microwave must have a leak because every time we run it the wireless to my laptop and the Roku lose connection. Also, any time an emergency vehicle (firetruck/ambulance) goes by we sometimes lose connection.

 

[William67]

I think we would plan on placing some small solar panels in the FC dedicated to charging batteries and other devices like our hand held shortwave radios, our solar powered radio, and our hand crank radio. I am not up on the tech, but I think GPS devices would still work in a post EMP world.. I think they run off satellite data??? Someone correct me.
I suspect one of the first things up and running after and EMP will be the emergency broadcast system. Of course you would have to have equipment that survived. Also things like blood pressure and blood sugar devices would be needed. They would need to be protected. If you owned a pre-1970s vehicle that did not have the electronic devices... just a good old solenoid, distributor, and starter motor... you might be able to bring it back to life if you had those few electronic devices stored away in a cage.
Just some thoughts....

Depends upon the source of the EMP. If its a MCE, even the satellites will be fried.

 

[FreeinChrist]

This article was interesting:
http://www.offthegridnews.com/grid-...-will-survive-an-end-of-the-world-emp-attack/

I am not too crazy about some of the stuff on the site, but some articles are good

 

[DawnStar]

HEMP stands for High Energy Magnetic Pulse.

Actually HEMP stands for High-altitude Electromagnetic Pulse. A lot of military equipment and buildings were constructed to be HEMP hardened during the cold war to counter this.

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/MIL-STD-188-125-1.pdf
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/emp-electro-magnetic-pulse/high-altitude-emp/

 

[FreeinChrist]

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[Mary7]

If you want a quick and engaging view of an EMP, read the book "One Second After".
This book displays in vivid detail what life would be like after an EMP evevnt.

I agree.. excellent book