Election fraud

[Arc F1]

This guy did a really good job of putting together what's going on this election. It's a half hour well spent watching.

Myself, personally, I feel like the republicans let us down. They should have fell in line and supported the will of the people and threw their support behind Trump these last four years. We had plenty of time time to address these issues and straighten out the censorship problems. The president should have left Twitter and taken millions of people with him. His pride has added to the problems.

 

[VirOptimus]

This should be in the conspiracy subfora.

 

[Arc F1]

This should be in the conspiracy subfora.

Maybe watch it first. He doesn't make any claims without showing evidence.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Maybe watch it first. He doesn't make any claims without showing evidence.

Stopped watching after the first Biden video Deceptively Edited Video of Biden Proliferates on Social Media

Move this to the conspiracy theory forum

 

[High Fidelity]

Will of the people? He didn't win the majority vote, so from day one he never represented the will of the people.

Also there's no evidence of fraud. Just people incapable of understanding their glorious leader could possibly have lost.

For all the snowflake talk from Trump early on, it's quite satisfying watching all the toys thrown from the crib by Republicans because they lost. Grasping at any straw, most of which started or fuelled by some of the 40,000+ documented lies by Trump alone since his election in 2016.

If Satan is the author of confusion then Trump is his mouthpiece.

 

[VirOptimus]

Maybe watch it first. He doesn't make any claims without showing evidence.

No, I dont watch conspiracy nutcases.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

personally, I feel like the republicans let us down.




They should have fell in line and supported the will of the people and threw their support behind Trump these last four years. We had plenty of time time to address these issues and straighten out the censorship problems. The president should have left Twitter and taken millions of people with him. His pride has added to the problems.

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[Arc F1]

Will of the people? He didn't win the majority vote, so from day one he never represented the will of the people.

Also there's no evidence of fraud. Just people incapable of understanding their glorious leader could possibly have lost.

For all the snowflake talk from Trump early on, it's quite satisfying watching all the toys thrown from the crib by Republicans because they lost. Grasping at any straw, most of which started or fuelled by some of the 40,000+ documented lies by Trump alone since his election in 2016.

If Satan is the author of confusion then Trump is his mouthpiece.

What is it that you will accept as evidence. Maybe an arrest? Every time evidence is shown I usually get the "well it's not widespread". Of course a little fraud is OK.

Texas Charges Social Worker With 134 Felony Counts Involving Election Fraud | The Daily Wire

 

[Arc F1]

No, I dont watch conspiracy nutcases.

You also don't understand what a conspiracy theory is according to your post.

 

[VirOptimus]

You also don't understand what a conspiracy theory is according to your post.

I do.

And this thread will end up in the conspiracy subfora.

 

[High Fidelity]

What is it that you will accept as evidence. Maybe an arrest? Every time evidence is shown I usually get the "well it's not widespread". Of course a little fraud is OK.

Texas Charges Social Worker With 134 Felony Counts Involving Election Fraud | The Daily Wire

No fraud is okay. When it has happened in the past it's so miniscule that it is irrelevant to the outcome. Something like 0.00006% of votes are fraud.

Of course they should be punished, no one's disputing that, but the reality is that voter fraud is a felony and it's simply not worth the risk given the 'reward' is a few extra votes amongst 100m+ votes. This is why it's rarer than being struck by lightning.

The person linked will likely, and rightfully, be imprisoned if indeed found guilty by a jury of their peers. However as above, the rarity of it happening is worth considering, as is the fact it's almost always isolated incidents, not indicative of widespread issues.

 

[Arc F1]

I do.

And this thread will end up in the conspiracy subfora.

As Christians we are required to speak the truth. I know that bothers a lot of people.

 

[VirOptimus]

As Christians we are required to speak the truth. I know that bothers a lot of people.

I dont care if you are lying or are misinformed. The result is the same.

Try to get out of the echochamber and learn real facts.

 

[Arc F1]

No fraud is okay. When it has happened in the past it's so miniscule that it is irrelevant to the outcome. Something like 0.00006% of votes are fraud.

Of course they should be punished, no one's disputing that, but the reality is that voter fraud is a felony and it's simply not worth the risk given the 'reward' is a few extra votes amongst 100m+ votes. This is why it's rarer than being struck by lightning.

The person linked will likely, and rightfully, be imprisoned if indeed found guilty by a jury of their peers. However as above, the rarity of it happening is worth considering, as is the fact it's almost always isolated incidents, not indicative of widespread issues.

If it's dismissed as not being widespread and not a problem how are we to ever know just how widespread it is? We have plenty of examples of fraud. Enough to change the outcome.

 

[High Fidelity]

As Christians we are required to speak the truth. I know that bothers a lot of people.

You're also required to submit to authority as all authority is ordained by G-d. Have you prayed yet for your new President, appointed by G-d, as commanded in your scriptures?

 

[Arc F1]

I dont care if you are lying or are misinformed. The result is the same.

Try to get out of the echochamber and learn real facts.

Try disputing the facts not just dismissing them.

 

[VirOptimus]

Try disputing the facts not just dismissing them.

You dont have any ”facts” to dispute, just conspiracy crap.

 

[cow451]

What is it that you will accept as evidence. Maybe an arrest? Every time evidence is shown I usually get the "well it's not widespread". Of course a little fraud is OK.

Texas Charges Social Worker With 134 Felony Counts Involving Election Fraud | The Daily Wire

Nice work by election officials and law enforcement. How many of those people voted?

 

[cow451]

As Christians we are required to speak the truth. I know that bothers a lot of people.

Truth don’t bother me. Truth is that no widespread voter fraud has been shown. The few number that seem to have a basis will not affect the final outcome.

 

[High Fidelity]

If it's dismissed as not being widespread and not a problem how are we to ever know just how widespread it is? We have plenty of examples of fraud. Enough to change the outcome.

It isn't dismissed. If it happens and is reported and investigated to the point where the evidence reaches the burden for prosecution then it will happen. These incidents can, and will, be viewed and be seen as either happening but typically isolated and rare, or widespread and having an impact.

So far there's nothing to suggest widespread fraud.

Is it really so difficult to understand?

Both candidates have run on different models during the pandemic that has so far killed a quarter of a million Americans. Trump has carried on as usual, downplayed it and been personally responsible for super spreading events, so his supporters are more inclined to ignore medical and scientific guidance and go and vote in person despite the option to do so safely via mail. Biden has been stricter in terms of his approach and guidance towards the pandemic, resulting in more Democrat voters opting for the safer option of mailing their vote.

Then consider we are in a pandemic trying to sort more mail votes likely than ever before with record voter turnout. The fact there's a lot of mail in votes isn't surprising, neither are the delays. That does not indicate foul play.