Elder concludes election is fraudulent before voting has concluded and votes are counted

[A_Thinker]

Clinton did say Trump's presidency was not legitimately won, based on what the Mueller report ultimately concluded was Russian interference to harm her candidacy and support Trump's “in sweeping and systematic fashion”, and various other things, in an interview on CBS back in 2019. Whether that can be honestly compared with an attempt to overturn an election or even with the constant flow of lies about election rigging etc from Trump is another question.

Thank-you, Tom.

I do recall that she has referenced several points where she feels that the 2016 election was unfortunate, not least of all that it was a razor-thin electoral college loss ... where she won the popular vote.

Russian interference and/or malfeasance by the FBI director at that time ... could easily be seen as factors which provided the win to Trump ...

 

[TLK Valentine]

Gov. Gavin Newsom easily survives California recall election, AP projects

Well, now that Elder has failed, now is the time for him and his followers to howl "Fraud!"

 

[Goonie]

Gov. Gavin Newsom easily survives California recall election, AP projects

Well, now that Elder has failed, now is the time for him and his followers to howl "Fraud!"

Obviously it time to call in the Cyber Ninjas!

 

[SimplyMe]

Because of all the republicans reporting they were told they’d already voted. It’s a lot.

How could Elder's website report the night before the election that Republicans would be told they'd already voted -- particularly since the claims of fraud on the website was only based on "statistical analysis."

The fact remains, Elder (or at least his website, which as candidate he is responsible for) was reporting fraudulent information, regardless of what issues may have occurred on election day.

 

[Blade]

Every one does this.. says it was fraud.. did we for Clinton and Trump? Trump said it 1st then she said it and never once let it go.. the woman from Georgia? She still says she won. .. but lets just forget all those dems that did do the same thing and just focus on Reb.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Every one does this.. says it was fraud.. did we for Clinton and Trump? Trump said it 1st then she said it and never once let it go.. the woman from Georgia? She still says she won. .. but lets just forget all those dems that did do the same thing and just focus on Reb.

Donald started saying it before his elections... Elder started saying it before his election.

Find a Democrat who did that; it'll be newsworthy.

 

[Tom 1]

Every one does this.. says it was fraud.. did we for Clinton and Trump? Trump said it 1st then she said it and never once let it go.. the woman from Georgia? She still says she won. .. but lets just forget all those dems that did do the same thing and just focus on Reb.

Are you honestly saying you see no difference between Trump's continual lies about rigged elections and fraud - going back to months before the 2016 election and continuing now, over, and over and over and over and over again, to the point that people foolish enough to take him seriously actually broke into your government HQ, and the odd disgruntled politician making the odd comment and letting it drop? To be clear, you genuinely believe those are basically the same thing?

 

[Tom 1]

she said it and never once let it go

Not so. On the basis of the Russian campaign to get Trump elected, Clinton said that she thought his win was illegitimate, not the result of fraud. Given the findings of the Mueller report, she had a point.

What rabble rousing comparisons do you have with Trump's attempts to start a populist coup? Can you provide something that would show their actions to be similar in any way, or something that would give Trump's lies about fraud the same weight as the actual, real-world reservations about the legitimacy of his win? Do you think Trump would have won without the huge misinformation campaign (not to mention Comey hobbling Clinton's candidacy at the last minute)?

 

[Strathos]

Republicans crying election fraud is the new boy crying wolf. When it actually happens, no one will believe them.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Republicans crying election fraud is the new boy crying wolf. When it actually happens, no one will believe them.

That might be the plan if when it actually happens, they're the ones doing it.