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PaladinValer
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Ecclesiology encommpasses all matters pertaining to the church, other than theology. The role of the church, and its purpose, its liturgy (informed by theology as well), dogmatics, governance and authority are all subjects for eccesiology.FFX said:
What does God want? is a theological problem
How do we do what God wants? Is an ecclesiological problem
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I'd have to do a survey, but my guess is that at least as many denominations are founded over ecceisiology as theology. For example my own sect, the Old Catholoc Church, came into being over an ecclesiological problem, the status of the Pope. We were perfectly content that the Bishop of Rome be the head of the Church, but when the first Vatican Council declared the doctrine of infallability, our Bishops withdrew their alliegience to Rome.FFX said:
Likewise many other denominations have their roots in disputes of governance and authority rather than over theology. My creed and the Roman Catholic Church agree an 95% of theology, and are not in dispute on any of the essentials, but we reject the governance assertion that the Pope may articulate doctrine and dogma over the objection of a Synod of Bishops.
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As indicated above, we came into being in the 1870's in the aftermath of the first Vatican counsel. A number of German and Dutch Bishops rejected the notion of Papal Infallability which was being asserted as doctrine by the council. Some of the Bishops were locked out, others walked. They then convened in Utrecht and made a compact, forming the Old Catholic Church.FFX said:
We have multiple denominations, including the Ecumenical Apostolic Church of which I am a member. We end up with different jursidictions for a different reason than many sects do, not out of dispute but as a matter of doctrine. Because we hold that authority of doctrine and governance rests with the Synod of Bishops, each of our Bishops are independent, and form and opperate their own "Church". Many band together in a denomination, others are a denomination of "one" (one Bishop, and however many churches he leads). Those Bishops meet regulalry in Synod to tackle the issues of the day.
We are also "Old Catholic" in the sense that we a worship in a traditional way. Like the Anglican Church (with which we are in communion) we adopted the venacular (we do the Mass in English, or whatever the local language is) - but we maintain the older forms. (I preach the Triditine Mass).
We tend to be conservative in worship and morals, and liberal in social and ethical issues - think of us as Catholic for Democrats!
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Ecclesiology (from Greek ἐκκλησίᾱ, ekklēsiā, "congregation, church"; and -λογία, -logia) is the study of the theological understanding of the Christian church. Specific areas of concern include the church's role in salvation, its origin, its relationship to the historical Christ, its discipline, its destiny, and its leadership. Ecclesiology is, therefore, the study of the church as a thing in itself.
Different ecclesiologies give shape to very different institutions. Thus, in addition to describing a broad discipline of theology, ecclesiology may be used in the specific sense of a particular church or denomination’s character, self-described or otherwise. This is the sense of the word in such phrases as Roman Catholic ecclesiology, Lutheran ecclesiology, and ecumenical ecclesiology.
Different ecclesiologies give shape to very different institutions. Thus, in addition to describing a broad discipline of theology, ecclesiology may be used in the specific sense of a particular church or denomination’s character, self-described or otherwise. This is the sense of the word in such phrases as Roman Catholic ecclesiology, Lutheran ecclesiology, and ecumenical ecclesiology.
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