Easter and the new birth

[Stinker]

I wonder what others have to say regarding what their understanding of what the New Testament has to say concerning this phenomenon. Personal contact with the supernatural? The utterance of a religious phrase? Water baptism? Change of a habit/s?

 

[Tu Es Petrus]

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[Secundulus]

I wonder what others have to say regarding what their understanding of what the New Testament has to say concerning this phenomenon. Personal contact with the supernatural? The utterance of a religious phrase? Water baptism? Change of a habit/s?

It is a work of God wrought upon the soul of an individual. He does this work at the time of Baptism.

 

[heymikey80]

I wonder what others have to say regarding what their understanding of what the New Testament has to say concerning this phenomenon. Personal contact with the supernatural? The utterance of a religious phrase? Water baptism? Change of a habit/s?

Which one: easter or the new birth?

To Easter: personal contact with the supernatural -- at the very least the Apostles experienced it in its fulfillment. I don't think uttering a phrase or pouring water was the baptism that was meant by the baptism of Christ -- here the baptism is the Greek metaphor for death, not a water rite.

A whole lot changed with the Resurrection of Christ. But it changed in exactly the direction Jesus intended.


To the New Birth: The Spirit isn't just contacting people -- He's re-creating them (cf Rom 8:11, 2 Cor 5:17). This again doesn't occur through a religious phrase or a water rite -- such things only reiterate the vow of God, and in this vow God is speaking a new thing into our lives, just as when He spoke -- and light blazed into darkness.

Do you think being re-created would at least start to change your habit/s? Probably. There're a lot of things wrong with us all -- everything has something wrong, I think. So yes, change is here to stay.